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PLATINUM WEDGES

Wishon’s classic traditional sole wedge design with milled face and Micro-Groove™ scorelines

Features:

  • Traditional, narrow sole, classic shape/profile stands as the finest overall shape and set-up behind the ball in a Wishon Golf original wedge design.
  • CNC Milled Face combines with Wishon’s unique Micro-Groove™ scorelines to offer the highest level of backspin available in a wedge design.
  • Micro-Groove™ scorelines are more narrow and closer together than traditional scorelines – the Micro-Groove design allows the edges of 5 lines to contact the ball at impact while traditional lines only allow 3.  This is one more key to the enhanced spin design of the PCF Platinum Wedges
  • Designed with Wishon Golf’s unique “zero-bounce heel” – all the bounce has been removed from the heel area of the sole to allow golfers to roll the face open without raising the leading edge.  A key to playability from thin grass and even hardpan.
  • Numerous wedge fitting options in 52, 56, and 60 degree lofts.

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Brooks

Which wedges spin the ball more? The PCF Micro Pro, or the PCF micro tour?

Looking at the milling on the faces of these wedges it seem that the Micro pro has different milling patters.

Why is the milling style/pattern different on the faces of these wedges? Thanks!

Tom Wishon

BROOKS Without question the rougher and more pronounced the ridges from the face milling, the more the face will spin the ball. Typically a circular milling will end up being more rough with more friction than any horizontal milling can be. The different milling was just to offer different options to players. Some players just do not like or want a very pronounced circular milling on the face – to some it is a visual distraction and to others who have the ability to release the club to get more spin anyway, they do not want that much spin as… Read more »

Rick Gardiner

Hi Tom,

1) What was the bounce and offset of the 48* PCF Micro Tour wedge?

2) I have asked Diamond Golf if your various hosel weights are still available (they don’t reply) and they are mentioned but not listed in the current on-line catalog…are they still being made?

Thanks,
Rick

Tom Wishon

RICK

Bounce on that PCF 48* wedge was 6*. How have you been trying to contact Diamond Golf? They are always responsive when they actually get the contact, from what I am aware. You can call them toll free from the USA at 1-844-552-3437 or email at sales@wishongolf.com or info@diamondgolf.co.uk . Yes for sure, they offer all the hosel bore weights we did – 2g and 4g in brass, 6g and 9g in tungsten. I will tell them they are not on line so that can get fixed.

TOM

Cal

Are these wedges being discontinued?

Tom Wishon

CAL The platinum version of the wide sole is discontinued. Forgive me in my semi retirement that I am not as on top of the OLDER models in the product line as I am the new ones I create for it but I think the satin chrome normal finish version of the Wide Sole is still available. I leave decisions about the older models in my product line to Diamond Golf to deal with and determine so I am not as 100% sure of this as I was when I was running the day to day everything for my company.… Read more »

hazlojusto9@gmail.com

Are these being discontinued or is there a redesign coming for these wedges?

Tom Wishon

The platinum version of the wide sole is discontinued. Forgive me in my semi retirement that I am not as on top of the OLDER models in the product line as I am the new ones I create for it but I think the satin chrome normal finish version of the Wide Sole is still available. I leave decisions about the older models in my product line to Diamond Golf to deal with and determine so I am not as 100% sure of this as I was when I was running the day to day everything for my company. TOM

Chris

Tom, I currently play the Micro Tour wedges. I was wondering if you have any advice on tipping shafts for these. I currently have different shafts in my irons than in my wedges and I was wondering if I got shafts to match should I tip them like an 8 iron?

Tom Wishon

CHRIS There can be a difference of opinion on actual tip trims for the wedges. I’ve always advised sand wedge trimming for parallel tip shafts to be +1/2″ more than whatever the advised tip trim was for the PW. So if the PW was to be 3.5″ then the SW would be 4″ tip trim. But as I mentioned people do their wwedge trims differently at times, though not with a huge variation. 8 iron tipping for wedges is what many in the industry do to try to get close to the various wedge specific shafts to soften it up… Read more »

Dennis

In December I was fitted for a Driver and a set of Irons from 4 Hybrid down to a 60 wedge. Really like the look and the feel of your designs. I have one questions. The club fitter who built my clubs had me pick out the heads except for my 56 and 60. He gave me the PCF Micro Pros. I don’t understand why he didn’t offer up the PCF Micro Tours. Is there a significant difference between the 2 and should I mention it?
Thanks

Tom Wishon

DENNIS Thanks very much for the kind words of approval for the new sticks you have. I really do appreciate hearing that and am pleased you like them so far. Of the two wedge models the only real differences are the face profile shape of the two designs and then the sole grind difference. The face profile shape is simply a matter of personal shape preference with the PCF being more of a round profile shape while the HM Series are more of an old classic teardrop profile, as the term is used. For the sole grind, to be totally… Read more »

Malcolm Lewis

Tom, 1) Any reason to believe a wedge from Cleveland or other wedge specialists would spin more than one of these wedges (which I own)? Meaning that if I assume good technique your wedges should spin just as much as any other leading wedge? 2) What are your thoughts on Cleveland’s cavity back wedge? Do you think a cavity back wedge would be more forgiving than a traditional wedge? Thanks in advance.

Tom Wishon

Malcolm There is no secret to what makes a wedge more conducive to generating spin. By far, the main influence on spin from the wedge itself is how rough are the flat areas of the face IN BETWEEN scorelines. The lines themselves have very little to do with spin. Their main role is to try to channel away moisture from blades of grass to reduce the moisture that gets in between the ball and the face. But since grooves are quite small in area they can’t channel away very much of this moisture so 98% of the spin on a… Read more »

Daniel D'Souza

Dear Tom,
When you google Wishon design 2018, the PCF micro pro wedges comes up. Can you release some information about the score lines and the face treatment and if the wedge has the same front sole knock down grind as the micro-groove HM series?
Also, will the new hybrid 318 RS more play like the discontinued 785 HF hybrids?

Tom Wishon

Daniel: The new PCF Micro Pro wedges are designed with a circular milled face and the Micro-Grooves that I first created several years ago. The circular milling is pretty usual in that many other wedges incorporate this when they do face milling. The Micro-Grooves are something I came up with some time ago to be able to put the edges of 5 grooves on the surface of the ball at impact instead of just 3 grooves in the case of normal scoreline lines. We do that by making the grooves to be 0.6mm wide and 2.0mm spaced apart. Conventional grooves… Read more »

Jerry Talberg

Had Tom Miller at AA Golf Clubs in Gsrner, NC Build me a set of micro groove wedges in the gunmetal look, 52,56 & 60 and went to range today they setup well, nice trajectory, very easy to setup to, there was a fellow there that’s is off to PGA Q school, asked him to hit, he loved the micro grooves and the way ball went off the face. I have ping glide 2.0 wedges as well and SM6 volkey and these stand up to them
Jerry

Jerry Talberg

Just to add an additional comment about the wedges Tom Miller built, most club makers don’t make and sell clubs and play with the customers, but Tom plays at my club and we played today and the wedges spoke for themselves! He had a front seat of their action, thanks again
Jerry Talberg

Tom Wishon

JERRY How about that – a triple threat for helping you with your game and your equipment – to fit it, to make it and then to play with you to verify it all works well !! Believe me, it can be a pressure situation for a custom clubmaker to play with a golfer AFTER he has done the fit, the build and the sale ! HA! But not for someone like Tom who’s experience and knowledge pretty much makes it so he’s right almost all the time with the recommendations he makes for golfers for their equipment specs !!… Read more »

Tom
I understand from one of my Customers that the 48 and 58 PCF Tour wedges are not legal with the USGA, please comment
Tom Miller AA Golf Clubs in Raleigh

Tom Wishon

TOM
Hmm, I thought they were. But I know for sure the 52, 56, 60 are ok and it might just be that we dropped the 48 and 58 from the PCF line pretty quickly after they were intro’d because they just did not have any demand. Sorry about that if there is confusion over that.
TOM

Brent

Hi Tom,
I’m playing Sterlings (which I love), but as hard as I tried to keep 8-iron-length wedges in the bag, I just couldn’t ever feel comfortable. So I’m wanting to build 52, 56, and 60 degree wedges in their own single length configuration. I’m targeting these wedges at 293 g head weight. (9g added to AW, handpick LW, and remove 7g from the SW). Have others tried this and been successful?

Tom Wishon

BRENT This is not an unusual situation although it usually centers on the SW and LW and not the PW or gap wedge. We find that it is about one third of all the players who go with a single length set end up preferring either their old SW and LW if they had one, mainly because over the years they have gotten so used to it that any change in length or weighting or shape and looks will not be acceptable to the player. With the PW and GW, that should not be much of a problem because these… Read more »

Brent

Thanks for the quick reply Tom,
My main reason to switch the gap wedge back to a conventional length was shot height. On full swings with the gap wedge (and even worse with the sand wedge) I hit it a mile in the air. I have high swing speed and a nagging problem with flipping through impact, so I’ve always hit it high.
I didn’t feel like I had enough control when my ball was up in the stratosphere.

martin connor

i have just recently purchased the PCF Micro Tour 48 , 52 and 56 degree wedges but non of them have a C on them .
I have looked at thr R and A and usga websites and these wedges are not listed.
does this mean the are not legal.
love the wedges like everyone says they give great spin

Tom Wishon

MARTIN That’s strange. The PCF wedges without the C on the back have not been made for at least 7 or 8 years. It’s been so long I forget the exact time without going to look it up. I have no idea how you could have bought such wedges unless they were used and from the first part of the first year of their existence, or if they are counterfeit, which I doubt because Wishon Golf is far too small of a company for clubhead counterfeiters to care about. In the very first year of the PCF wedges existence, they… Read more »

Chris Harrington

Tom,
my son plays your driver, fairway wood and hybrids. He is a rising star on the local and regional junior level. He also uses your red and black cart bag. Loves them all, tried to get him to try another driver and he refuses…lol. Anyway reason for the email is we are looking for the zip on front patch that can be embroidered. Do you have anymore of those zip on patches or can you give me the manufacturer of the bag so I can purchase more of the zip on patches? Thanks

Tom Wishon

CHRIS Ouch. . . I wish there were some of those front pouch pieces left around. On October 1 I handed my product line over to Diamond Golf in the UK to manage and distribute because I decided it was time to semi retire. Diamond Golf chose not to carry the golf bags we had in our USA location because they planned to source new TWGT bags from a familiar vendor in Europe. So the bags we had in September of last year were closed out and all of the pieces and parts were liquidated back then. Sorry about that.… Read more »

Greg

Hi Tom,
I have a question : why adding a 2* offset on wedges ? I’ve read somewhere that helps for short game when chipping with the ball back in your stance. But, personally, I own the PCF micro tour serie and I feel that can be a handicap for lobshots… Am I just having an issue with the look at address or it does make a change actually ?
Regards
Greg

Tom Wishon

GREG: First off, offset is measured in millimeters or decimal equivalent inches. Not in degrees. Loft, Lie, Face Angle are measured in degrees. It so happens that an actual offset measurement of 2 millimeters looks to the eyes as no offset. This is because when two eyes look down on a single object like the leading edge and hosel of a clubhead, there is an optical illusion created in the brain. Thus if you make an iron with an actual zero offset, to most people that looks like the leading edge is out there a little in front of the… Read more »

Greg

Thanx Tom,
Very clear. I think my club is too upright then and I need to trust your job.
Thank you

Austin Lundquist

Do you have the specs on the 48 degree wedge heads? Weight mainly, I sent an email to Diamond Golf Customer Service a few days ago but haven’t heard back. Also wondering if they have conforming grooves or if they were left over from stock made before 2010? I’m assuming the small “c” stamped on the back of these wedges denotes conforming grooves? I’ve seen some 48 degrees without this which is why I’m asking…Thanks!

Tom Wishon

Austin The head weight spec for the PCF 48* wedge was 284g. The reason this wedge did not have a C on the back is because it was a special order wedge we made for our Swedish distributor. Because it was a special order head, I never chose to send it into the USGA for any formal evaluation. But it was made with the same groove dimensions as all the other PCF’s which are officially conforming. However, if memory serves me right, the Swedish distributor did not take all of the 48* wedges that were made upon his request so… Read more »

Austin

Thanks for the reply. Guy is a good college golfer, uses the Sterling irons and micro pcf 52 56 and 60 right now. Would like to play the 48 instead of the Sterling PW (hits it to high). Since the 48 was never officially sent in does that mean it would be illegal for him to use in say the us am qualifier or since it is the same it would be fine? Not sure the technicality of it all
Thanks! Shot 69 myself with my Sterlings in my club tourney yesterday

Tom Wishon

technically the club has to be on the USGA’s published list of conforming irons and wedges they keep on their website. Which is dumb because there is no such list for fairway woods or hybrids or putters, but there is for drivers, irons and wedges. Go figure. but then I have feuded with and criticized the USGA for many years in my career about their oft illogical actions regarding equipment rules. And that goes no where of course because as a USGA official told me once at a convention, “oh you know Tom, we see ourselves as a benevolent dictator… Read more »

Austin

Sorry, just thought of a follow up question to…if it would be illegal to use the 48 since it is not officially approved, looks like a 52 degree could be bent 4 degrees to a 48. What kind of bounce would the wedge have at that point?
Thanks again!

Tom Wishon

Loft and Bounce have a 1:1 relationship since the face is forever permanently locked to the sole and one cannot move without the other moving too. For each 1* you lower the loft of a wedge, you reduce the bounce by 1*. And vice versa, for each 1* you increase loft, you increase the bounce by 1*. But you also affect the offset and this is what messes up more players when loft is greatly changed on any iron or wedge. For each 1* you reduce loft, the offset INCREASES by 0.5mm. So if you go from 52 to 48*,… Read more »

Austin

Yah I noticed that when I was looking online for conforming lists that all clubs weren’t on there…strange. Bummer about that. 2mm offset would maybe be alot. Looks like it would basically get rid of the bounce as well. Would that be normal for a PW or do they usually have some bounce? Last thought, how tight are the tolerances on these? Wondering if maybe sometime one comes off at 50 degrees or something closer to that. If that’s the case we could have that bent to 48 without effecting the offset and bounce as much. Thanks again for your… Read more »

Tom Wishon

Austin
Tolerances are pretty tight. Maybe 1 out of every 15-20 heads will be a full degree off the spec for loft. 10 of 20 are dead on and the rest are 1/2* off the spec. Maybe I have seen 1 out of 200-300 heads that slips through at 1.5* off but never have I seen one 2* off.
Wow, those are impressive stats on the round for sure. Damn !!! Rounds like that are just a distant memory for me these days thanks to, (cough) age !! HA!
TOM
TOM

Udo

Hi Tom
I love the PCF Micro Wedges, left handed. I think it would really great to manufacture all your wedges that features an exchangeable face insert. Therefore when the grooves wear off one can just buy the exchangeable face, similar to the TaylorMade TP xFT C-C wedges of 2010. Would you consider something like the same?

Lindsay

Playing the Micro as a leftie. Like it a lot. Rather than offer a 56 in two different styles, have you considered offering LH in one style only but giving us the 52;56;60 lofts?

Tom Wishon

LINDSAY In our PCF Micro Tour wedge family, we do offer the 52 and 56 in left hand. But we do not offer a 60* in either of our wedge design models, I am sorry to say. The reason is plain and simple, the economics of left hand head demand in our industry for a smaller company such as we are. Never in my 31 yrs of designing clubhead models have I ever seen a left hand model sell more than 8% of the units it will in the RH version. But the separate tooling dies and inventory requirements to… Read more »

Kourtney Knowles

Tom have you considered offering more loft options on these wedges? For example adding a 48 degree or even going 50,54,58? Just curious why you dont have as many wedge loft options.

Tom Wishon

Kourtney
We do have the PCF satin version in 48 and 58* lofts. Our Swedish distributor wanted these and so we do have some left over in our inventory if you want them. Only HUGE companies can afford to do so many loft options like you see with vokey or cleveland or any of the other mainstream standard off the rack club companies. As we are smaller, the demand for these other lofts just is not there to warrant doing the tooling dies and doing the production inventory.
TOM
TOM

Peter

Thanks Tom,
My wedges are getting a reputation around the club for being some of the roughest that anyone has ever seen.
They make other major manufacturers milled wedges seem quite smooth in comparison.
I love them and everyone who has had a few shots with them is amazed at how the ball checks up on a crisply hit shop.
My pro has now built a set of the PCF Tours for himself and after trying my wide soles for a few shots a 5 handicapper I know ordered a Tour for himself.
Great wedges and should have a much higher reputation

Tom Wishon

Peter
Thank you, very much appreciated. The fact you and the pro like them is very nice for us to know. Reputation is more a matter of spending more marketing money to brag about the model to millions of golfers. What you and the other players think is actually more important to us in our work.
Best wishes to you in this great game,
TOM

Peter

Hi Tom, I have the PCF WS in both the 55* & 60* lofts. Infact I have also purchased a spare 60* head now that you are discontinuing that head. If I do not get round to having it made up as a club it will make a great pen holder and paperweight for my office desk. When I researched your different wedge head designs I came to the conclusion the the PCF and the PCF WS had identical faces. But my local club fitter, today, showed me the new club that he had just made up for himself. This… Read more »

Tom Wishon

Peter
You’re just seeing the +/- tolerance on the face milling. It’s a challenge to keep this very consistent over many heads being made because there is always a small amount of face warping that is natural from the casting process when the heads go from 3000* molten steel to cooled. And there certainly can be mistakes made in the production a well such that a head here and there might end up with less milling than what the tolerance is supposed to allow – it just happens in the course of making a lot of heads.
TOM

Malcolm Lewis

Hi Tom – Is the 56 the same bounce as the 60? I like my 60 and was told my wide sole 55 had a little too much bounce to use on a tight lie. Was thinking a 56 PCF with the same bounce as my 60 would be a better choice for approach shots – but still be good in the sand. Thoughts?
PS Any plans to ever produce a BeCu set of irons?

Tom Wishon

MALCOLM Both the PCF 56 and 60 have the zero bounce heel grind, but the primary bounce on the 56 is 12* and on the 60* it is 8*. I did make the Wide Sole with much less of an actual bounce sole angle because of the width of the sole. We’ve heard from golfers who do play the Wide Sole off the turf and off closely mown turf as well. Best thing I can tell you is just to try hitting some shots from a tight lie with it to see how your release and delivery of the clubhead… Read more »

Luis

Hi Tom!
I am considering expanding my Wishon collection with these wedges! I need a 56 and a 60 and I have two questions:
1. What are the bounce in these beauties? I cannot find it anywhere…
2. Can I put Rifle Spinner shaft on them? Would you recommend the Rifle Spinner? I use Rifle 6.0 with my 575 irons and I am very happy!
Best regards and thank you in advance
Luis

Tom Wishon

LUIS Thanks very much for your interest in adding the PCF wedges to your set ! All of the PCF wedges are designed with what I call a “zero bounce heel”. That means I put a primary bounce on the sole from toe to just short of the heel area that will be 12* for the 56 and 8* for the 60* – but then the heel area of both wedges has zero bounce. The reason for this is so if you turn the face very open to hit a cut shot of high finesse shot from short, tight grass,… Read more »

Mitchell Petcoff

I had the pleasure of building my PCF Micro Tour Wedges with Mr. Gary Balliet here in Phoenix and have found that these are the best wedges I’ve ever played. Controlling spin has always been difficult for me with OEM wedges, but with Mr. Wishon’s PCF Micro Tour’s I’ve found complete control. I purchased the 52, 56, and 60 degree wedges and have had nothing but pure enjoyment from them. Mr. Balliet’s knowledge coupled with this product far surpasses anything on the market today. I will never go back to an OEM company and look forward to exploring the other… Read more »

Tom Wishon

Mitchell: Thanks so much for taking the time to let us know how your work with Gary has been !! Golfers sometimes often think that the best part of my “job” is the process of thinking up the designs, creating them, testing and everything associated with coming up with the models. While that is fun, it really stands second to the enjoyment I get when I get the chance to read a comment and experience like yours !! I really do get a kick out of being able to hear that you decided to work with Gary to begin with… Read more »

Duncan Brett

I have a set of 771 in left hand & a 52 & 56 wedge. Am very happy with the clubs – they are excellent. Will you bring a 60 degree in left hand out at all in the near future?

Tom Wishon

Duncan Sorry for the delay in responding. Our auto notice of the posts was off and no one knew it. Ooops. I am sorry but at present the demand for a LH 60 degree wedge just isn’t enough to justify the tooling cost and inventory investment. I hate to say it, but this is an area in model development that is dictated by statistics, ugh. Never in my 30+ yrs in clubhead design have I seen a LH model sell more than 8% of the units it will in RH. So that dictates what we can do. And believe me,… Read more »

Hi Tom,
iron heads weights more as loft increase. It’s obvious that a player need less weight on long irons. That being said, wedge play and chipping are way different from long game. The thing is i don’t understand why the 52° weights 6g less than the 56, and not the opposite. Thank you you sharing your knowledge, and wish you a happy new year.

Tom Wishon

MAX We see the 52 wedge as a gap wedge, very similar in use to the pitching wedge in that it is a wedge used more for full swing shots from grassy lies for distances a little shorter than what a PW is used for. But the 52 is also used for less than full swing shots by a fair number of players, for half and 3/4 length wedge shots from grass as well as chip shots too. As such that means the swingweight of the 52 needs to be able to be made to be anything from the same… Read more »