S2S WHITE

GRAPHITE WOOD & IRON SHAFTS

 

Designed for the widest range of golfers with average swing characteristics…

Features:

    • S2S White is Wishon Golf’s most popular shaft for golfers with average swing characteristics: ideal for golfers with smooth to average tempo and average strength
    • S2S White retains its popular bend profile design for average golfers, designed with a slightly stiffer lower tip section to offer more control through impact for tighter dispersion
    • S2S White hybrid shafts are for average ability golfers who need a lighter weight hybrid shaft
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Tom Drew
4 months ago

Tom, how does the S2S White Hybrid Lite R flex shaft compare to the older GI 335 R flex shaft? Is the White Hybrid Lite shaft still available?

granger don
5 months ago

Tom have the 870 ti irons now going on 8 years, thinking of new set and was wondering what you might recommend. have tried several oof friends clubs and they have made some improvment as time has passed the TM simms feel very sweet and forgiving the mizuno clubs all feel great. newer clubs as in drivers have increased distance and forgivness. my 870 have been good but time to move on

granger don
5 months ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

Thanks for the advice. I had my 870 set tested for lie, loft.the lies were ofrf for me as I am now 78 and things change..7 iron is now 32. I am averaging 135 with it and my shot on club face is all bunched together..using white s2s if I remember correct..3 and 5 wood ar eyours as well. now using Mizuno st200 driver works like butter..yes the stronger loft clubs give a lot of my friends a good feel I wish clubs just had loft on sole not a number that means nothing..maybe I should just regrip again..after all… Read more »

Christian
2 years ago

Dear Tom, it is so great that you answer all this questions. So maybe you could help me with mine. I struggle with an open face at impact with my woods and hybrids and was wondering if a different shaft could help. I am playing only a few years but thanks to a fitted set of Sterling SL my swing gets more and more consistent. Got S2S Black shafts on my irons and S2S White on my hybrids and woods. Clubhead speed with my irons is around 80, got an aggressive swing with a mid release. Because I do not… Read more »

Tom Wishon
2 years ago
Reply to  Christian

Christian The most probable reasons for a change in clubs to bring about a reduction in a slice or push are, 1) the head on the new wood has a more close face angle than that on the wood with which you slice the ball. You can get a feel for this by looking VERY CAREFULLY at how the face points when you sole the head on the ground in the address position with both woods. 2) The total weight of the new wood is different, either demonstrably more heavy or light, which may have an effect on when you… Read more »

Mitch Bradley
2 years ago
Reply to  Christian

Shaft flex on driver and fairway woods makes a huge difference for me. I get tuned in to the feel of the shaft kicking during the downswing, and my accuracy really suffers if I have to use something different. Fortunately you have found a setup that works, so you could just go with that and be happy. If you absolutely must break down the factors, you could start with that known-working case and start varying things to see what happens. Change the hosel setting, add or remove weight, swap out the shaft for ones with different lengths, weights, and flexes.… Read more »

Lea
2 years ago

Hello
Fantastic that one can ask you questions directly. I have a question about Sterling iron shafts. In the charts for choosing shaft you ask for five iron club speed. How should one think when Sterling iron clubs are a lot shorter at eight iron leangth?

Tom Wishon
2 years ago
Reply to  Lea

LEA
There is only about a 2-3 mph difference in clubhead speed between the 5i and 8i for the vast majority of golfers so it is not significant to worry about that when using an iron speed for fitting Sterling irons’ capability for whether a golfer could use the #4 or 5 irons as part of his set. 5 iron speed is also how most shaft companies rate their flexes in terms of swing speed rating for shaft fitting so this is another reason for using a mid iron speed in fitting irons.
TOM

ROGER HUSTON
4 years ago

Tom thanks you for your reply. I have these discussions with people that own golf shops and consumers that think because they are spending 200 to 300 dollars for this premium shaft that they are getting the “perfect” shaft. I am so happy that u=you addressed this. I think the golf IQ needs this info and I can’t think of anyone better than you to explain it.

Tom Wishon
4 years ago
Reply to  ROGER HUSTON

ROGER Well, it is actually very simple, but the power of marketing is so strong that no matter what, people are always going to believe that if it costs more, it has to be better. There are 4 things only that determine how any shaft will play for any golfer – shaft weight, the bend profile stiffness design over the whole length of the shaft from butt to tip, the torsional stiffness AKA the “torque”, and the weight distribution of the shaft which is other wise called the balance point. That’s it. Nothing else they talk about in a shaft… Read more »

4 years ago

I’m beginning to think that Mr. Wishon’s shafts are among the most underappreciated products he designs. With today’s adjustable drivers and adapters it’s so easy to experiment with shafts, but not very affordable for those with modest means. The S2S shafts (with their modest price), are an exception.
I ordered an S2S white shaft to try in a Cobra Fly Z driver, and it has been far and away the best shaft I’ve experimented with and is the one I will use from here on out.

ROGER HUSTON
4 years ago

Tom some of the quote “premium shaft makers” talk about how their shafts are better for the adjustable or rotating driver heads. Can you speak to whether the placement of the shaft in the adjustable drivers has anything to do with the performance of the finished product? They will say that their shafts are not affected by the spine of the shaft and that their product is better for adjustable driver heads because the “spine affect” doesn’t bother their shafts. This seems like spin( no pun intended) but maybe you can clarify this subject. Thanks

Tom Wishon
4 years ago
Reply to  ROGER HUSTON

ROGER It will probably never cease to amaze me how some companies can make up stories to verify a quality matter with their product. They can do this because 99.9% of the people they talk to/communicate with do not have a shred of technical experience to challenge them with factual information. The ONLY way that any shaft company could make a shaft so that no matter what the rotation position in the head it would never demonstrate any form of bending asymmetry is if they spent 2 or 3x as much money in the production of the shafts to painstakingly… Read more »

3 years ago
Reply to  ROGER HUSTON

Hi Tom,
I know (from this thread) that the red and white lines indicate the stability plane, but I don’t know which line is which, and haven’t been able to find the info after quite a bit of searching.
My guess would be that the white line is on the stable plane and the red is orthogonal, but I’m just guessing.
Could you please clue me in on the correct installation of the shaft relative to those marks? If you have already addressed the question, a pointer to the answer would suffice.
Thanks,
Mitch

Tom Wishon
3 years ago
Reply to  Mitch Bradley

Mitch It’s easy to remember what’s what with the red and white lines on the butt of our graphite shafts. The WHITE line is the most stable plane of bending. The read line is 90* away from that to tell the painting department where to place the shaft name/logo pad printing artwork. What you want is the white line plane either pointing toward or away from the target, does not matter which, so the artwork is straight up or straight down, as per which side you want to show on the top of the shaft when the club is built.… Read more »

3 years ago
Reply to  ROGER HUSTON

Thanks!
Before I was aware of the lines, I always built with artwork down, so it appears that it got it right by accident. Thanks for the attention to detail that is so evident in all your products.

Oran
4 years ago

Tom, I’ve been experimenting with shaft flex for my 929HS 5 wood. Right now I have the white S-flex tip trimmed 1″; length is 41″. That combo is close to what I want in feel. It may be a tad soft (maybe). I was wondering if I was to try the white R-Flex shaft and trim it between R and S if that may be better. What would the tip trim need to be for the R flex shaft to be between R and S for the 41″ length? My driver SP average is 92-95. I noticed in one of… Read more »

Tom Wishon
4 years ago
Reply to  Oran

ORAN Technically, to be halfway in between the R and S with the White graphite wood shaft, you would first tip 1.25″ from the R. Then since you seem to like the lesser 1″ tip trim for your 5 wood (2″ is normal) for its 41″ length, you could then do 1.25″ + 1″ for a total of 2.25″ to get halfway between R and S for the 5 wood. Whether you go S and less trim or R and more trim only is determined by the length of the parallel tip section on the shaft. That’s 3.5″on all our… Read more »

Tom
4 years ago

Tom after a few years out of the club making business, my interest has heated up and I’ve again become a customer. I was lured into the idea of the longer driver, and after a few years of erratic driving came back to my roots. I’ve read all your books and find your science compelling. Using your White heavy, which I can’t believe is only $24, while most OEM shafts of decent quality are $150+ I re-shated my driver back to 44.25 inches, and yesterday hit the ball more consistently, father, and with more control than I have in three… Read more »

Alan Houk
5 years ago

Tom,
Carter Penley talks about the importance of Tip to Butt Ratio of Shafts. Could you tell me how this applies to how you rate shafts? It seems very similar to me.
Thanks,
Alan

Tom Wishon
5 years ago
Reply to  Alan Houk

ALAN: Wihle I haven’t spent any time digging into any of Carter’s stuff, I am pretty sure from remembering him talking about this 20 yrs ago that what he is referring to is the progression of stiffness in a shaft from butt to tip. I.E. what we call the bend profile of a shaft and what our software charts through the data tables and the graphs it generates for all shafts in the software data base. I don;t like the term “ratio” in this because it infers thinking only about the very butt and the very tip to be able… Read more »

Hans
6 years ago

Dear Tom I did a try with your S2S shaft fitting program and was astonished obout the outcome. First I did a run with ratings of 2,2,2,2,driver speeed 95 mph,5 iron speed 80mph.The program recommended stiff shafts for woods+irons and regular for the hybrids. I did a second run and changed only the rating of physical strength so the rating for the second run was 2,2,2,3 and the program recommended stiff shafts for the driver and regular for the irons and the hybrids. That means according to my understanding: the higher the physical strength of a golfer the more flexibel… Read more »

Tom Wishon
6 years ago
Reply to  Hans

HANS With over 2800 different possible combinations of the shaft fitting inputs in this program, I cannot say that I did not make any mistakes in compiling each different output for each different combination of speed, transition, tempo, release, strength. You;re absolutely right in saying that it’s not logical to see the flex drop simply from a change in the golfer strength only so that has to be a mistake I made that I thank you for catching and bringing to my attention. I do have to re-visit all of these outputs in January to make the changes necessary to… Read more »

TONY R.
8 years ago

S2S white wood shafts……I have used many different golf shafts over the years, but to date none has compared to the white S2S for consistency. A great shaft at a fair price and Tom’s shaft fitting program has been right on target.

8 years ago

A new client called me a few days ago, having broken the shaft of his Callaway driver. I told him not to worry, that I had a good replacement for him. The old shaft was a Fujikura, Speeder R flex, and I replaced it with a S2S Whte, R, 75-90. After his first round with the new shaft, he called me enthusiastic about the change, and said that almost all his drives found the center of the fairway.

Jay Worsham
8 years ago

Love ‘all’ of the S2S shaft’s, but the white has been the #1 in my shop, and the gold plus is running a close second. If you haven’t tried these, your missing something good.