PRESENTING THE MOST VERSATILE ADJUSTABLE DRIVER EVER DESIGNED…
Four years in the making, the 719MW is the most advanced moveable weight driver designed by Wishon Golf. The basis for the 719MW can be traced back to an early design in the mid-80s by Tom Wishon and Elmore Just – the founder of Louisville Golf Company: the Cure driver was the first original heel-weighted draw-bias driver ever made in the golf industry. Made from laminated maple, it effectively proved that the centre of gravity on a clubhead can be shifted with the heel weight. And when a golfer contacts the ball in an on-centre shot, this causes a slight rotation on the vertical axis, creating in essence, a tilt on the spin axis of the ball: reducing the amount of fade on a shot.
A later woodhead design in the mid-1990s by Tom Wishon, the AccuCore 50 Driver, would further demonstrate the benefits of heel-weighted drivers, but also most importantly that at least 25-30g was needed in the heel-side to move the COG enough to the point where a centre shot off the face would create a visible draw bias effect on the shot.
Many modern adjustable weight drivers have a maximum of 20g of moveable weight – this is not enough to move the centre of gravity and create a marked difference for the vast majority of golfers with average clubhead speed.
So when Wishon began the design process for the 719 moveable weight driver, it was obvious that it would need to have the ability to move at least 30g of additional weight around the head to be able to offer regular golfers a chance to be able to see a change in the shape of their shots.
And that’s not an easy task (to say the least).
For a 440cc driver, total weight shouldn’t exceed 202-205g in order to be built to a normal range of swingweights, so to take the additional moveable weights, the body of the head had to be in the realm of 172g – an extremely difficult object to achieve.
Wishon was able to engineer the 719MW with the help of one of the very best investment cast titanium foundries in the world, and by varying the wall thickness and removing the entire titanium crown, replacing with lightweight carbon composite, we were able to create the objective design for the 719MW.
The 719MW is the ultimate in advanced adjustable driver technology – offering more versatility and multiple fitting options to clubmakers than any other adjustable driver.
The 719MW features an ultralight carbon composite crown to lighten the head structure and lower CG.
Additionally, the 719MW includes a Custom Hosel Sleeve which enables a wide range in custom lie and face angle specifications and can also be used to offer diffferent lofts when the golfer does not need a custom lie or face angle – only when the driver is held in the square face position at address.
Designed with four separate weight cavity positions, the 719MW has the ability to accept seven different weights – 2g, 4g, 6g, 8g, 10g, 20g, 30g.
+ Place 20g or 30g to either heel or toe position for draw or fade bias OR
+ Place 20g or 30g to either forward or rear position for higher or lower ball flight OR
+ Split 10g or 20g weights in the toe and heel positions to increase head MOI
+ Place other weights in remaining sole cavities to adjust finished weight for fine tuning swingweight/club MOI on a very wide range of finished club length options
CUSTOM HOSEL SLEEVE
The 719MW’s Custom Hosel Sleeve offers a wide range in custom lie and face angle specifications. The Custom Hosel Sleeve can also be used to offer different lofts when the golfer does not need a custom lie or face angle, but only when the driver is held in the square face position at address.
• With the driver SOLED in the address position, the custom hosel sleeve will allow a change in face angle from 2° closed to 2° open or lie position from 58° to 60.5°.
• By holding the club with the face square to the target in the address position, the hosel sleeve will allow a change in loft of the 9° model from 7.5° to 11°. For the 11° model, by holding the club with the face square to the target in the address position, the hosel sleeve will allow a change in loft from 9.5° to 13°. Full instructions can be found at the link on the right and will also be included with each 719MW driver when purchased.
The following charts reveal the change in the lie, face angle and loft specs for each of the 8 sleeve positions for the 9° and 11° models. The change in lie and face angle is in relation to the measured lie and face angle of each 719MW head, when it is measured traditionally with the hosel sleeve in the N position.
(Hosel sleeve designations: N= Neutral; C=Closed; U=Upright; O=Open)
- All 719MW Drivers are supplied with a wrench, custom hosel adaptor and ferrule included. All components are also available to purchase individually.
- All weight pieces available and sold separately in: 2g, 4g, 6g, 8g, 10g, 20g, 30g.
- Also available is the Wishon 360 Grip, made for matching with the 719MW.
© COPYRIGHT 2024 WISHON GOLF
Hey Tom question on spin reduction. How much would the spin rate change if you went from 30 grams in the back weight port and moved it to the front? Along that line, how is the spin reduced? Is it because the delivered loft gets reduced from the weight being forward and that produces less spin? I’ve never really understood how weight location on a head influences spin and launch.
Kourt I can definitely help you understand how weight movement forward and back can influence launch angle and spin. It comes about from the weight position’s effect on the center of gravity of the head, and then how that CG position affects the forward bending of the shaft to influence the dynamic loft of the head at impact. When we start the downswing with a wrist cock angle between the arms and the shaft, before we begin to unhinge the wrist cock angle and release the club, the arms/hands and the clubhead are all moving at the same speed. But… Read more »
Hey Tom,
Looking to go old school with a 135g steel shaft in 719mw Driver (mainly for more control). Final length possibly at 43″-43.5″ inches. I have a swing speed in excess of 115mph with a standard graphite 70g X flex shaft. I’m intrigued with all the weight options of the 719mw to make it work and dial it in… Can you recommend a setup that would work with the weights or offer any opinions with this project. I heard a couple tour players are actually going back to steel in their woods but still very rare. Thank you
JOHN When it comes to what I will call “experimental fitting”, I feel the best way to go is to go to the extreme in what you think might help what you want to cure, and then you back down from there to find the proper final point. So if you go with a heavy shaft in the driver, go with a heavy head weight from the sole weights and see what happens to your tempo, timing, control and consistency especially. You want to find a point where everything feels too heavy and then you begin to back down the… Read more »
Hello again Tom
I read your book,”Common sense clubfitting.” But I cannot find the word “smashfactor” I believe smashfactor is one of the most importend subject in clubfitting. Can you describe what smashfactor and its impact on the five specification on the game improvement fitting factors?
Lasse Smash factor is the ball speed divided by the clubhead speed. So if you have a ball speed of 150mph with a clubhead speed of 100mph, the smash factor is 1.5. If the launch monitor reading the clubhead and ball speeds is accurate, smash factor can tell you whether the clubhead you are playing has a high COR or not. If your driver head were actually a 0.830COR, the maximum smash factor possible would be 1.5. ANything under that indicates either that you hit the shot off center OR, the head (driver) has a COR lower than 0.830 if… Read more »
Greetings Mr. Wishon.
I love you driver and recently bought a set of same length irons EQ1’s. However 1 of your weights at the toe of your driver keeps falling out. Is this a common problem or what can I do to fix it?
Jason
It sounds like the weight plug in the toe end of the head has not been epoxied into the weight bore, with the medallion epoxied over the top of that. I thought that the little information sheet that comes with every head explaining the use of the weight bores says to epoxy the weights into the weight bores and also says to use d little dab of epoxy between the medallion and its cavity surface.
TOM
Tom,
You are great. Thank you for replying, I’ll try that. Again, your clubs are great.
Hi Tom, so when the 719MW driver becomes available you are saying it’s 440cc not the stated 460cc in catalog. I prefer smaller heads. I have owned your 919 white model. Guessing it’s a bit smaller than that one, maybe like some companies call Tour size. I hope smaller is better and hope they are available this year!
Hi Tom, I’ve been a user of your club designs since the Golfsmith days, always the best tech and the best value. Sorry if my question is a repeat, I did not see this question in the thread.
What is the max MOI of the 719MW when optimized for MOI, assuming a finished head weight of ~205 gms?
DOUG With a 10g weight in each of the weight cavities of heel, toe and rear on the sole, the MOI will increase to over 5000 g-cm2. The reason it isn’t higher than that, which is still pretty high, is because to be able to make the body of the 719 be no heavier than 170g with no weights installed, we had to make the body of the head a little smaller than 440cc. But that was another one of the benefits of being able to install a lot of weight in the sole to be able to push the… Read more »
Hi, Nice to see your new driver head, I’m still using the 919THI. I notice on the new 719MW specs there is no GRT like on the 919. Is there a reason why you didn’t go with the GRT face. Thanks
WALTER
It must have been an oversight in the layout of the page for the 719 because for sure, the 719 is designed with the same GRT vertical roll radius as the 919 and every other driver and wood and hybrid I have designed over the past 15+ years or so.
TOM
Tom I’m really impressed with 719MW. The head is the perfect shape to my eye and looks great in the setup position. The distance is similar or better compared to my 919THI. The weighting system is terrific. My questions have to do with the Wishon adapter wrench and adapter wrenches in general. Is the Wishon wrench supposed to click when tightened to specs? If not how do you know when the head is properly secured? I have a fear of overn -tightening and possibly stripping the adapter threads. Are all golf wrenches interchangeable? I really be interested in hearing your… Read more »
DAVE
Yes the wrench is set up to click when the proper torque is applied to the rotation of the screw. I think pretty much all the clubs with adjustable hosel sleeves are set up with wrenches to do this. And in most cases, yes, the screw head for most all of the adj hosel locking screws is the same, a TORX #4 I think, spoken off the top of my head with no stopping to go look that up!! HA!
TOM
Hi Tom,
Is the 719MW conforming for competition if one chooses to use no weights and any of the weight cavities?
NATHAN Yes for sure, there are no restrictions in the rules for using weight cavities on the 719MW driver. At its lightest weight with no weights, the head weighs 169-170. So at the much lighter range of weight up to say, 185-190g it could be a good head for juniors or for people who know they play better with a much lighter driver head weight than what is normal in the industry. But it also can be weighted so that a player that wants/needs a very short driver such as 41-42″ for ultimate control and accuracy, it can be built… Read more »
Tom, I thought there were legal restrictions on faces COR? What’s with the 10,000g faces? What have they done or is it a new marketing tool? The way they advertise them the whole driver face is a sweet spot! I thought you can have a minimum thinnest?
GARY You’ve got a little misinformation going that I need to clear up first before going into an explanation to help you. The 10,000 number you have heard bandied about in claims for performance of drivers is the combination of TWO Moments of Inertia (MOI) in the head added together. The MOIs have nothing to do with the COR. COR is the Coefficient of Restitution and is a measurement of the “springiness” of the face. The higher the COR of the face, the more the face flexes inward when the head hits the ball, so the more energy is transferred… Read more »
Tom,
All things being equal, how much higher would this driver launch the ball (with a 30-gram weight in the rear position) vs. an identical loft 919THI driver.
Thanks!
RAY All things being equal, and for sure there would be a LOT of variables involved to equalize (!!) the 719 with a 30g weight in the center rear cavity would launch the ball about 1.5* higher than a similar impact from a similar loft 919. Biggest variable is the point of release of the golfer. Rear or forward weighting can only act to influence launch angle for players with a later to very late unhinging of the wrist cock angle. All other golfers with early to midway releases won’t see any change in launch angle from forward or rear… Read more »
Hello Tom
I usually FLO every shaft in the position six o’clock. That means the flo is pointed down according to the center of gravity of the head. The idea is that the shaft will allways bending down and foreward according to the center of gravity of the head, not the face of the clubhead. I understand that this is a subject of discussion and I am not shure. Can you help me understanding which way to assembley the clubhead according to FLO of the shaft?
LASSE Almost all of the clubmakers I know who FLO the shafts they work with will install the shaft so the FLO plane is aimed in the direction of the target. This is so when the shaft begins its forward bending after the unhinging of the wrist cock angle, the forward bending is straight and cannot cause the head to move up or down to create more of a chance of an off center toe or heel side hit. Some of the clubmakers take this a step farther – they note the golfer’ swing path and they orient the FLO… Read more »
Tom, question about adding weights to the head of the 719. Is their a limit as to the weights you can add to the head. e.g. a 30gm in the rear and a 20 in the heel and 5gm in the front and toe ports.
GEOFF The 719 head with no weights has a spec weight of 170g. If you added 55g to that, the head at 225g would likely be too head heavy to be functional as a golf club. The swingweight would be too high. How much head weight to use is first and foremost dictated by what swing weight feels best to you, not too head heavy and not too head light, based on the length, the shaft weight, the grip weight and what YOU as a player perceive to be too head heavy or too head light. For example, if you… Read more »
Hello Tom
Just saw your video on the new driver 719MV.
A question, when you put 30 gram to either toe or heel and then place a 2 gram opposite, i agree the will change the center of gravity, but how about smashfactor, will smashfactor be 1,50 at the center of gravity or the center of the face?
Lasse The smash factor would be at its highest for impacts in the center of the face. This is because the center of the face is where the highest amount of face flexing can happen. With EVERY driver that is fully hollow with no support behind the face, any time you hit the ball off center the face is not able to flex as much as the impact on center. Now with a good variable thickness face, which the 719 does have, impacts that are as much as 1/2″ to 3/4″ off center still can have a 1.50 smash factor… Read more »
Message to Paul : interesting you should bring up shafts and the 719. I’m in the process of working with my fitter in n j ( Tim mossel ) the first one I tried was the Wishon white wood 60 gram . I hit the ball well ( as I said in my remarked below) But I felt some stiffness at times on impact. My 919 driver has a 45 gram shaft .no stiffness but not as long or high as 719. So Tim mossel is going to try to put a lighter shaft in the 719 . I’m head… Read more »
i have measured torgue on shafts today and I measure ironshafts one inch from the butt end and at the tip of the uncut length of the shaft. One pund and one foot. My measured values are much higher then your values of the same iron svhaft. Howe to you measure your shaft?
I would like to reply to newest letter from Paul. Paul I’m 70 years old and my swing speed is not what it once was. Yet, I’m hitting the 719 further and higher than my 919. Now I will say the face is set “ neutral” ( which allows me to concentrate on the height of my ball) I have 30 grams of weight in the rear of the club. If you can set at neutral ( no draw or fade bias) it’s a longer driver then 919. By the way my 919 driver is 13.5 loft.
Tom and Ken, I now own both a 719MW and a 919THI driver. My search now shifts to the best shaft for a target length of 44″. My question is: what are the rules for tip trimming when extra mass is added to a driver head? I have read in another post about the “1:2 ratio rule” when a club is not built to standard length. I need guidelines to adjust tip trimming when mass is added to a clubhead. Thanks to Ken for the additional input. Very surprising your 919 is 13.5 degrees in loft given the higher launch… Read more »
PAUL There are no “rules” per se when you add mass to the 719 head for the tip trimming of the shaft. The clubmaker has to use his best judgment for whether to increase the tip trim when increasing the swingweight (or MOI) of the driver based on what will perform the best and FEEL THE BEST to the golfer in the finished club. These things can be two separate elements in a fitting to assess whether a normal tip trim of a shaft would end up too soft or too stiff or just right for the golfer, AND THEN,… Read more »
Tom, Would you please discuss the skill/handicap range for the 719 MW driver compared to that of the 919 Thi. I am 65 with a driver swing speed in the low 80s and do not make consistent solid contact. Given the 13 and 15 degree options, clearly the 919 Thi is intended to be suitable for me. The 11 degree 719 MW can be extended to over 13 degrees of loft, so maybe it too is intended for someone like me. About the sleeve adjustment with the 719 MW, my understanding is that if a loft column were added to… Read more »
PAUL Thanks very much for taking the time to stop by with your interest about the 719MW driver. Always happy to help with any information. First of all, driver head designs are not really designed for specific player ability types. Irons most certainly are in that you have the muscleback blades for the very good players, shallow cavity backs for reasonably decent players, and graduated forms of deep cavity back going all the way up to super game improvement high COR face irons for those who need every bit of help from their equipment possible. Almost every driver head on… Read more »
Tom, What a reply! Your combination of expertise, patience and generosity is off the charts. Thanks so much. After not playing golf from about 2007 to this past summer, I restarted when my son expressed interest. He now has my old set of 560 MC irons and I replaced these with the more appropriate 771 CSI in PW – 6. Not only are they long and easy to play, they are not harsh at impact on off center hits. I must protect my elbows from reinjury. My old driver (Golfsmith Jeff Sheets design from 2005) is 43.5 inches long with… Read more »
Tom the 719 driver is one of your greatest achievements! I took it to floridia over past weeks. And it’s incredible. Tim mossel ( from mossel golf in n j ) put together a gem. We have it at neutral ( no draw or fade ) with 30 grams of weight in the rest of club-head. Here is what I find: first I’m averaging about 15 or more yards then my 919 . I’m hitting the ball higher ( much higher with a nice draw) vs my 919. ( something I wanted). Most of all I can’t believe the control… Read more »
KEN Thanks so much for taking the time to stop by and share your experience with the new 719 driver you got from Tim Mosel. I’m so pleased you are close enough to work with Tim because he just does not get enough credit for being such a good clubmaker/clubfitter. ANyone who is in that part of New Jersey would do themselves a ton of good in the game if they took the time to contact and work with Tim for their equipment needs. Keep having fun and I hope the 719 spurs you on to play better than you… Read more »
Hi Tom,
Is there an engineering/performance design for the scoring lines on the 719MW face or is it simply for cosmetic purposes?
Thank you, Ben
BEN Regardless if we are talking about scorelines on wedges, irons, hybrids, woods or drivers, the only function of scorelines is to channel moisture away from the surface impact between the surface of the ball and the clubface. Spin is generated by the friction of the non lined surfaces of the face that come in contact with the surface of the ball at impact. This is precisely why milled face wedges spin the ball more than non milled face wedges. The milling creates a higher coefficient of friction that can “grab” the surface of the ball more aggressively. Most drivers… Read more »
Hello Tom
I have been thinking about smash factor and swing speed. As I understand the max sf can be 1,50. But does it go for any club head speed, I mean if your club head speed is 80 m/h will the smash factor be 1,50 if you hit it in the CG as it goes for a swing speed of 110m/h ??
Lasse
Yes, as long as the driver head has a COR of 0.830 and the shot is hit in the center of the face, and the impact is recorded by a very accurate launch monitor, the smash factor will be 1.50 regardless of the clubhead speed.
TOM
When do you expect 15g and 25g weights being available? Thanks.
Bill Sorry for the delay in responding but being over here in the US and Diamond over there with the inventory, I had to find out what was what with the other weights. Diamond does have the 15g in stock. That’s the good news. The bad news is that while I thought I had asked the factory to make the 15 and 25, the factory has no knowledge of being asked to make the 25g weight. But really, when you think about it, there really is not a good reason to have a 25g weight. The 15g for sure is… Read more »
Tom, thanks. I was looking at playing this driver (11 degrees) at 45″ with a 57 gram shaft and 53 gram grip and using a 25g weight in the heel and 2 grams each in the other cavities and felt this would give sufficent fade reduction but if necessary I could adjust face angle as needed. The swing weight at 45″ would be very close to my current driver.
Hi Tom,
Are there any fitting specs that can help a golfer to reduce his tendency to swing over-the-top?
Speaking of golf swing faults, do you have any book recommendations about golf swing theory, something that is data/physics-based?
Thank you for your time.
MARC There are no fitting specs that on their own can make you reduce the tendency to swing over the top. However, there are fitting specs that make it much harder to re train your swing to swing less over the top. The biggest one is driver and fwy wood length. If the driver and the woods are too long for the golfer’s ability to control the club, that longer length will accentuate an over the top swing and make it worse. Now at the same time, playing with a shorter length driver and woods is not going to automatically… Read more »
Hi Tom,
I have a constant M.O.I on my iron set , is it advisable to match the MOI of my driver with that of my irons ?
JIM No, the driver and fwy woods in a totally MOI matched bag will typically be around 75 g-cm2 higher in MOI than the irons. The reason for this is because the woods and driver as a group are a big jump longer in length than your longest iron. In a std set of 1, 3, 5 woods and 3-PW irons, the length of the 5w is typically 2 to 3″ longer than the 3 iron. In MOI the length is a squared property which means that the length is much more important for determining MOI than the weight. So… Read more »
Hey Tom,
With the variable weights, could this driver be 40-41″ long and be the same swing weight as the one length fairway woods? – basically trying to make a one length woods set
If that is possible, would the gapping be enough to justify the idea?
As always, appreciate your time
Trent Yes, with all the different weight options, you can build the 719 driver to 40-41″ length and reach a normal swingweight. That is definitely possible. The question though is why you would want to do that, because at that short of a length, without question you will be dropping your clubhead speed a significant amount and from that, losing distance. The only reason I can see to do a driver that short is if the player has severe problems with either accuracy or on center hit consistency. Even then, having the driver at say, 42 or 43″ should help… Read more »