575MMC FORGED IRONS
Progressive Cavity Back and Muscle Back Forged Designs with each Back Design formed by CNC Machining…
Features:
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Progressive CNC machined 575MMC cavity back created in a full, #3 to 9, PW, AW set makeup
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Progressive cavity back design moves weight from lower on the long irons to higher on the short irons
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Progressive CNC machined 575MMC muscle back designed in a #5 to 9, PW, AW set makeup
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Progressive milled muscleback design moves weight higher on the back through the wedges
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575MMC set expansion allows each version to be played as a full set or in mix and match set makeup option
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More compact head size with shorter blade length offers the compact look in the playing position desired by more traditional minded players
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All new CNC machining pattern results in a beautiful milled surface finish – a truly unique look to match the solid feel of a soft 1035C carbon steel forged iron design
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CNC machined scorelines under 2010 USGA and R & A rule guidelines
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© COPYRIGHT 2019 WISHON GOLF
Hi Tom, I am getting ready to have a set of 575mmc irons built with .370 parallel Shafts. The plan is to have my builder use a 4.2 cpm sloped progression in the irons 4-PW. I am trying to fully understand how this system works. I know the basic concept of the length of the shaft and the heavier headweight causing more flex and load of a shaft when you swing. My question is when you assemble all the clubs and test the frequency, would they all have a similar frequency, or do they still maintain 4.2 cpm gaps as… Read more »
Ben Thanks very much for your interest and your question. Always happy to help. In a set of incremental length irons, the usual installation of the shafts allows for a 7cpm progressive increase in shaft butt frequency between each iron as the clubs progress from longer to shorter through the set. If the 4.2 fq progression starts with the lowest number iron, to go with such a frequency progression would make the short irons and wedges softer in stiffness than what would be the usual norm. At the same time if the fq progression starts in the middle of the… Read more »
Hi Tom,
I searched through the comments and couldn’t find any question related to mine.
I have some scratches and wear on my irons and wonder if you recommend to use a tool to repair the grooves and face on my irons or is it not possible to do so?
Best regards
Patrik
Hi Tom,
Just curious as I ordered a 575 model 54 degree loft wedge to fill in the the gap between my AW 50 loft degree muscle back wedge and my HM 58 degree loft wedge. I expected another muscle back wedge but I received an AW cavity back wedge which is not listed under the 575 table shown in website regarding clubs available in cavity back. Is there a technical explanation for this as perhaps the AW needed to be adjusted to get to the desired loft?
Hi Mark,
I’ve tried reaching you via email but didn’t get a response. If you could contact us by emailing sales@diamondgolf.co.uk or calling our toll-free number 844-552-3437 we can assist you further with this query.
Best Wishes,
ASH
Tom, Sorry if this is a double post but my response to your last comment was not showing up, so I wasn’t sure if it went through. When I first started reading your response to my message, I thought if this is causing you to really have a think about it, then I must be in some deep trouble! But then, as always you come through and hit the nail on the head. I had noticed a higher flight than I am used to seeing. It did feel like I was not getting the same amount of wrist hinge but… Read more »
ERIC Thin shots can be “encouraged” by a couple things with regard to golf club specs. The more common one would be that either the total weight (which is mainly controlled by the shaft weight) or the swingweight might not be well fit to your strength and tempo – with the more usual one being something is a little too light. Too small of a grip is not typically one that would come to the top of my mind for a thin shot, but as you describe it, IF this had any effect on delaying the release it could be… Read more »
Hi Tom! I had a question regarding irons in general (Though the 575’s will be purchased by myself here in the next couple weeks). I currently play a mid sized golf pride mcc grip and it has always felt a little on the small side. I stumbled across Jumbo Max grips and ordered a few different sizes to try. I like the larger diameter of the grips a lot, my misses are much smaller and I feel like its easier to control the face. The issue I am having is I seem to be striking the irons higher in the… Read more »
ERIC Wow, it is not very often I don’t have a good feel for answering a golf club tech question but seriously in all my many years I have never heard of anyone reporting what you are seeing with the change to the big grips – that being impact moving higher up the face. . . Hmmm. The only thing that comes to mind is whether the big grips are changing your point of release of the unhinging of the wrist cock angle coming into impact. Are you hitting it higher in shot height along with the impact being higher… Read more »
HI Tom, As a club builder and fitter of several of your iron designs, many of my clients are partial to the 575mmc and 565mc including myself. I have a set of the 575mmc in my bag today. When I ask for feed back of their performance, what I hear most often is that the face of the irons show abrasions to easily. Most OEM irons will show surface scuff marks over time. I know that could be due to the type on balls that are put into play and range balls too. Is there another metal material that could… Read more »
Hi Bobby Hope all is well with you and good to hear from you on the comments section of the website! The main thing that draws many golfers to a forged iron head model is the same thing that makes it more easy for the head to show wear and tear and scratches and dings. What I am talking about is the fact that most golfers who want to play a forged iron want the iron to be forged from a soft carbon steel alloy. Companies in the past that have forged an iron from an alloy of stainless steel… Read more »
Hi Tom, As a lover of the 575 cavity back iron, I am curious about your vision or plans for the next generation of muscle/cavity back irons to replace the 575. As you may know from previous communications I believe your design of the hosel, low heel height and front to back and heel to toe curvature make this a sublime, balanced and standout design. Are your thoughts around improving aesthetics or actual design modifications. Id love to know what you are thinking. Thank you George
GEORGE One thing about me and my design work is that unlike the big companies I don’t change models very often and I don’t change just for the sake of change. If the model is performing really well AND if there is still decent demand from the clubmakers, it stays. That’s why many of my head models have lasted well over five years with quite a few of them lasting over ten years even. Which is remarkable in today’s world. But, that being said I have had conversations with Diamond Golf over the past year plus about whether there could… Read more »
Hi Tom, I have been playing the 575s for about 18 months and have been very satisfied with the performance. I have a combination set (3 – 9 CB, PW – AW MB), but am considering changing the 7, 8 and 9 irons to MB as I like the slightly more compact head and narrower sole. So I’d just like to put forward my vote on head size if you do create a replacement design – ever so slightly smaller than the current dimensions would be great. Perhaps down to a 75 mm blade length? The current sole design is… Read more »
Michael Many THANKS for your support of what we and I have always tried to do with the direction of the company, its focus and commitment, and the designs. I truly do appreciate that and I am totally honest in saying what an honor it is and a pleasure for me to think that way down where you live, you have been using my design work and enjoying the results. That’s really a nice feeling for me to have to know that! I’ll think about what you say but I must be honest and say that 75mm is very short… Read more »
Dear Tom, I just got fitted for the 575mmc and 3 HM wedges. Fantastic golf clubs! I managed to add 4 mph and 10 yds on my 7 iron! But it’s the dispersion that’s amazing and the feel is unbeatable. I have the 575 up to a 5 iron and was thinking to have a 590 DIH as a 4 iron but I tried a 575 4 iron with graphite shaft and I might go with that. My next fitting I’m getting a 919 driver and 929 3 wood and I tried the 590 DIH 2 iron which is amazing!… Read more »
JOHAN Thank you very much for taking the time to let us know how well the new clubs are performing for you. We’re very pleased to hear that you are happy with the sticks and that the clubs are helping you to enjoy this great game a little more! The 590 and 595 are fairly similar in design because both are high COR face models and both are designed with a wider sole to keep the center of gravity lower and further back to enhance shot height. The 595 is however made from a more ductile steel alloy so when… Read more »
Hi Tom Hope you and your team and your families are navigating these turbulent waters well. I took up the game 6 years ago and was fortunate enough to have my second set of irons of yours (575mmc’s) fitted. They are tired now (especially the 8 iron which is my get-outta-jail weapon). The shafts are still super so I’d like to order another set of heads – 3i – 9i. Can I get these direct from yourself or do I have to find another club Fitter associated with Wishon Golf near me in Kent, UK. Unfortunately… Read more »
NICK There are no direct to consumer sales of my designs that Diamond does because we believe completely in the benefits of working with a competent custom clubmaker to be fit into the best specs. With Kempton retired, which is a shame because of his incredible skills, I would recommend you contact Doug Holmes at Diamond Golf at dougholmes@diamondgolf.co.uk and tell him you used to work with Richard and you need for him to offer a recommendation of someone else in the general south of England area that you could work with for your fitting needs. Doug knows all the… Read more »
Hi TOM Many thanks for your reply. You are right, Richard is indeed incredibly skilled and a font of knowledge. I have made contact with him in the meantime and he may be able to assist. I also contacted Doug so thanks for that. You are right about the shaft though – will work with either Richard or Doug’s suggested fitter to get the right one (I literally had to work harder than I ever have keeping it on the planet last weekend) – did mange to get a feel for it though so I’m super keen to get that… Read more »
Dear Sir, Thank you for your fabulous contributions to golf! Back in the mid 90s I was fitted by Dana Upshaw with a set of Harvey Penick clubs. They had R400 shafts, D2 weight, 4-12 irons and D, 3, 5, 7, 9 woods. I had the 9 wood made for a specific hole a year or so after the initial set was made. Have to say the 7 and 9 woods were my favorites! One bounce from the 9 and it would stop dead on the most dangerous greens. Unfortunately, that set was stolen. I am in need of new… Read more »
HI AMY It is a real pleasure to have the chance to respond to your post and to try to offer some help in your own Search for your perfect golf clubs! May I say that you certainly did the right thing by choosing to work and trust Dana. No question whatsoever he has been one of the very best clubmaker/clubfitters on the entire planet and a definite contender with a very small handful of clubmakers like him for being the best ever at it. It’s too bad he’s retired and out of it now or I would tell you… Read more »
Hi Tom, First and foremost, thank you for everything you’ve done to shed light on the truth in this industry. I’m a former club pro and modestly competitive amateur and without guys like you I’m not sure I’d have ever found my way out of the woods with regard to what I needed. I’m 6′ tall but have long arms and my wrist to floor is 34 inches. Every fitting I’ve ever had resulted in the recommendation of clubs that ultimately are too long for me. I started tinkering with cutting down my driver and that experiment went so well… Read more »
Brendan The thanks are to you for having the interest in equipment technology to have dug us up years ago and to put your trust in us that we would be the best source of truthful information to guide your search for your perfect golf clubs. I truly appreciate your kind words although I still fear my light is quite faint when it comes to its reach over the golf industry!! Yes, I still remember over 20+ years ago when Dan asked for some time at a clubmaker convention so he could explain what he was trying to do with… Read more »
Good evening Tom, Fred here well I’m 60 years old and could open a golf store with as many clubs I’ve bought throughout the years. Last time I was fitted was mid 90’s with titlest dci. Played them well. I shoot between an 80 to 95 on a really bad day. Well I’m being fitted Thursday March 2 here in Daytona by Glen Belden. Not sure what I’m going to end up with but I’m liking the 565. Also Driver, fairway woods and hybrids to replace 3 and 4 iron. I’ve spent hours reading about your golf clubs and background… Read more »
FRED Thanks so much for your visit to the comments section of our website and for your interest to have booked a fitting with Glen. I know Glen to be a very experienced clubfitter so I know that he will do a good job analyzing your swing and playing characteristics to be able to offer you the best recommendation. Plus going through a fitting with a very experienced clubmaker is fun. You’ll learn a lot and by all means, do not hesitate to ask as many questions as you may have so you learn more and enjoy the experience to… Read more »
Hi Tom!
Im going to have a wishon set buid for me in april. Probably the 575s. I Love how rhey felt when i was hitting then a month ago
Im thinking about this; Will this modell soon be discontinued? Or will it live in for a couple of years more. For me One of the biggest advantages with wishon clubs is that tjey hang around for some time so of One club gets lost you can get One new that is exactly thesame.
SVEN Right now we have no plans to discontinue the 575 forged carbon steel irons. But they have been in the product line for quite a few years so I will be honest to say I am just beginning to work on various beginning sketches and models with an eye that one of these years it will be time to move into a new forged iron model. So there is a little bit of a chance that if we all get excited that perhaps we could be looking at 2021 or 2022 for a new forged iron. At any rate,… Read more »
Tom, I’ve played these clubs for the last 3 years. This season, I’ve had my clubs re-shafted , and let me tell you, they are absolutely incredible. The sound and consistency of them are incredible, and they have performed well in many different weather conditions. I’ve done countless tests against the top manufacturers of irons, and I can simply say these perform and look better than most. Thank you for creating such a beautiful club.
JOSH Wow. Talk about how nice it is for me to be able to read a comment such as yours! It’s an absolute fact that no matter how much I enjoy the process of designing club models and everything with that “work”, it is not nearly as enjoyable as being able to read a comment like yours and know that you are enjoying this great game a little more in part because of a club model that I was able to create. That’s really cool for me to know that. So the thanks are really and truly to you for… Read more »
I absolutely love the feel of these irons. I built an MOI matched set of 4-PW in CB, AW in MB with N.S. Pro 1050 GH shafts and Wishon cord grips. My wrist to floor measurement is 37″, so +0.5″ is more comfortable for me in the shorter irons. However, I built 9-AW 0.5″ long, then used 3/8″ length increments for the longer irons. As a result, the 5 iron is standard 38″ long. This really helps with consistent center contact on the longer irons. Definitely something to consider with your clubfitter.
ROB Thanks so much for your comment and we’re very pleased to hear you like the custom 575 irons you have created. And we’re even more pleased to hear that you are using sound judgment to tinker with the lengths and length increments. We now believe from all our work with 3/8″ increments and longer wedge lengths that the old half inch increments that rule the industry are not the best for golfers and that there are much better ways to handle the lengths of your irons, which you are proving in your work. Well done! And the very best… Read more »
Tom, I should also add that having the weight port at the bottom of the hosel bore really helps with the MOI matching process when using the 3/8″ length increments. I needed to add 8-10g of weight to some of the less lofted heads to get the very close MOI match using the Auditor MOI Speed Match machine from Golfmechanix. I used the 6g tungsten weights in the port plus 2g or 4g brass weights in the shaft tip. For those readers not familiar with building to a desired MOI match, the process is fairly simple once you have determined… Read more »
I would say that the Club masters associated with Wishon clubs are very professional and at the top of there craft. Thanks for the 565 series, I had them fit for me in 2017 (Musselman’s Golf) with the 919 woods. I’m very interested in the 519 and the 575 series
Thank you
Good day. I’m struggling to find a fitter/builder in the Austin Texas area. I’m really interested in getting a set of your irons fit and built for me but can’t seem to find anyone. Any insight would be great.
KEITH The reason there are virtually no experienced independent custom clubmakers operating a business in Austin is because when Golfsmith was open and growing like a weed, the Golfsmith owners even saw local clubmakers as competition and did their best to get in the way of their business. Since GS filed bankruptcy and the original owners backed away, there still just haven’t been any really good independent clubmakers that have opened up shop in Austin. Now, don’t worry, as long as you are willing to take a little drive down to Kerrville, down there is a clubfitter who used to… Read more »
Thank you so much Tom. I’m going down there next week for a fitting. I’m looking forward to meeting Keith. Already had a few phone conversations with him. Much appreciated.
Keith
Glad to hear that you’ve made contact and are all set up to work with Keith! Be sure to use the session to just have a good time and ask all the questions that come to mind.
TOM
Tom, thought you might get a kick out of this. 4,5,6 sterling at 37”. 7,8,9 565 progressing at .3-.4. 575 mb pw,gw. 6.2 smooths. I’ll let you know how it goes. Chatham should be getting the parts tomorrow
Calling it my Frankenstein set
Keith
That sounds like a very clever and well thought out set makeup. I look forward to hearing your impressions when you get a chance to work with them for several ball striking sessions and rounds.
TOM
Completely agree with Tom. Keith fitted me into a set of 771csi and I’ve been completely in love with these irons. I’ve been playing them for about 4 years now. I’m not sure what part Keith enjoys the most. Fitting or building the clubs. Either way this guys knows his stuff. BTW… Keith paired my 771’s with Aerotech shafts. Awesome combo. Give it some thought.
Keith at Precision Fit Golf in Kerrville is great. Visited Jan 15, 2020. I took up the hobby of making my own clubs several years ago with mixed results, but had fun while learning. For me the learning process was more important than the potential to save money. You will NOT come out money ahead making your own clubs. Just go get fit properly. If you are in South Texas or the Hill Country, Keith is the man. After several learning experiences, pleased with my most recently assembled 575MMC irons. Keith was kind enough to check the MOI matching on… Read more »
JIM I am so pleased to hear you met up with Keith and that your expectations were met, and then some!! I can still remember very clearly when I met Keith back in the early to mid 90s at a clubmaking school I was teaching at Golfsmith. From then on it was nothing was going to stop Keith from being the best clubfitter and clubmaker possible. And he has done that as I put him in my top 5 all time clubfitters I have ever known. Thanks so much for taking the time to share your experience and the very… Read more »
Why are these 2 7 irons different?
MIKE I am sorry I might not have understood your question fully. If not from my response, let us know and we’ll be happy to elaborate more specifically. I’m guessing you mean the 7 iron in the 575 blade muscleback iron vs the 7 iron in the 575 cavity back iron? If so, then I can tell you that the reason I designed two models in the 575 was to allow for golfers to have a very wide variety of set makeup choices. You can play each set on its own or you can mix and match between the two… Read more »
Hi Tom, I’ve had 560mc irons and 555 irons. Loved them both, and I still have Wishon wedges in the bag. I’m now considering a set of 575 irons. Would the DG AMT white shaft be a viable option in these?. I’m not sure if the AMT shaft ‘effect’ (marketing gimmick or worthwhile?) of More penetrating flight in the shorter irons is something you have already thought about when you designed the weight distribution in the heads. And therefore, a standard set of Wishon stepless steel shafts Might be absolutely fine. Thanks.
KEVIN I have not had the actual DG AMT shafts in my hands to do a full length bend profile stiffness measurement so I am at a bit of a loss to try to clearly offer an answer to you. However, being that they are Dynamic Gold, that means they are tip stiff and the AMT version has to be variations upon that tip stiffness perhaps going a little stiffer to drop the shot pattern into a more penetrating flight. If you have played conventional DGs and found them to NOT be too tip stiff, then I have to believe… Read more »
Helped me lots, thanks Tom. I’ve gone for the 3-7 CB and 8-pW MB with Wishon stiff stepless shafts. Cannot wait to get them in the bag, the heads are awesome, #proper irons 🙂
I purchased a full set of brand-new 575 muscle heads a year ago for my junior and have not fitted with any shafts because they have been hung on the wall in the dining room — simply an art to look at everyday.
Well that’s really nice to hear you like the design of the 575MB irons that much !! Never thought that anything I designed would graduate from an implement of the game to a work of art! But I will take the complement and thank you very much!!
TOM
Hi Tom,
I’m still really enjoying my MB, CB combo set that I’ve had nearly 2 years.
I only go up to the 4iron in the CB. Is there a way to get a 5 iron trajectory with a 3 iron carry distance?
Thanks
Rick
RICK Glad to hear you are still happy with the cavity and blade combination mixed set! In 30+ yrs of designing heads I know of no way for ANY iron design to get you a 3 iron carry distance with a 5 iron height unless you use a hybrid head for the #3 iron. And that of course is totally possible with 21-22* loft hybrids in my design line, the 318 and 775. The advantage the hybrids have for shot trajectory over an iron is the fact their design puts the CG both lower and more back from the shaft,… Read more »
Would like to say thank-you for designing a beautiful club. Grew up with my fathers old clubs, 1977 Staff Tour blades and Macgregor Tourney M85 irons. I have a set of 565 and my gamers are the 575. both play and feel like the old clubs with more forgiveness with the ability to move the ball left and right. Have built a few sets for friends that hit mine and they love them. Also love the 775 hybrid, built one to 5 wood length to fill in gaps, a cannon. Keep up the great work and thank for you dedication… Read more »
JEFFERY
Thanks so much for taking the time to stop in and share your very kind comments about the irons. Nothing is better for me in my work than to have the chance to hear when a golfer really likes and plays well with one of my designs. That thrill for me is better than being able to actually do the design work, it really is! The very best to you in this great game!!
TOM
Hi tom, i acquired a set of pre-owned 575mmc 4-pw, i love them, aesthetically they plesse my eye when standing over them, i play off of 19 and was told they were not for me, i didnt listen. I feel very confident whipping a ball out of any lie with the compact non bulky club head. My question is, where can i get a 575 gap wedge in ireland? Or can i get it sent to me?
MARK As long as you really like the clubs and as long as you feel you are playing to the best of your ability and having fun in the game, go with your gut and forget the “armchair clubfitters” and what they say. Golfer confidence is really as important to more important than whatever is written on paper for what different golfers should or should not be playing with. Best thing I can tell you is to call Diamond Golf International in the UK and ask them if they can give you the names of any clubmakers within a reasonable… Read more »
Hi Tom, huge fan been playing and making your clubs for over 15 years. I never got a chance to get a full set of 550 blades (possibly the most beautiful golf clubs ever made). I was on a hiatus from golfing and building when they were phased out, and I only have a partial set now. Any chance you still have a set sitting around?
Thanks for everything
Aaron Thanks very much for your kind complements. That’s very nice of you to say that and I appreciate it very much. Sorry to say that none of the 550C or M are around as that model was discontinued in the later 2000s to make way for their successor, the 555’s. 555’s to me were better than the 550’s because the 555’s had a better sole grind with more front to back radius than the 550’s. At any rate the 555’s were dropped to make way for the current 575’s which debuted some 5-6 yrs ago I think so there… Read more »
Thanks Tom, I haven’t seen a Wishon club yet that hasn’t played brilliantly as intended. I made a set of 575 blades for my brother and they are indeed excellent. Also I made batches of 752TCs back in the day, they were my go to model for beginners and intermediates. Excellent golf clubs. In retrospect I just found the 550 blade to be the most aesthetic design of a blade ever, and I’m a blade purist, in that that I enjoy the challenge of hitting a long iron blade properly, almost as much as scoring. Alas I am a tiny… Read more »
Tom,
I just ordered the 575s with the 5&6 in the cavity and the 7-PW in the MB. My thought process in doing this was to have a little forgiveness with the longer irons. I guess my question would be is this common and what are the pros and cons?
My club maker is Terry Sloan from Hazel Green, AL and is a firm believer in your products. This is my second set as I am laying down my 752tc irons and upgrading. Thank you for making great top of the line products.
JARED My sincere thanks for your interest in what we have tried to do all through my years as a club designer over the years. I’ve had three chances to design for one of the big companies which was an honor that they would try to come after me but I have always stayed in the custom clubfitting side of the industry because I believe so strongly that the best clubs anyone will play will come from a solid custom fitting analysis that will result in the clubs being built from scratch by a competent custom clubmaker like Terry. I… Read more »
Thank you for your quick response. That is exactly what I was looking for. I will definitely tell Terry hello. Thanks again.
I love m 575’s. I was also able to pick a few 585HI (3, 4 and 5) but I haven’t seen much written about them. ‘d appreciate it if you could provide some background on them.
Thanks in advance for your time ad consideration.
JIM The 585HI was a driving iron design, made in a #2, 3, 4 and 5 iron configuration. They were introduced in around 2007 if memory serves me well and stayed in the line until 2010. The were investment cast from 431 stainless that we heat treated to make the alloy a little more bendable for loft/lie fitting changes. They were not a high COR design. That came much later in the driving iron I designed in 2015 called the 590DIH. The 585 were a wide sole design with a little bit more shallow face height than most 2, 3,… Read more »
Tom – regarding the 585HI, I have a 24 degree with an Aldila NV65 S shaft (a neutral shaft that I also have in my fairway wood and have had in a previous driver). While I hit my irons (the excellent 575MMC’s, by the way) generally quite straight or with a slight fade, I have noticed a significant tendency for the 585HI to draw. Was there any draw bias designed into the 585HI?
Lawrence There is no draw bias designed into the 585. The CG is right on the face centerline so there is no way that the usual means of inducing a draw bias from a heel side located CG is happening with this model. Perhaps the lie angle is too upright for your swing and this could be creating the draw motion on the shot? That is about the only way the head itself could bring about a draw tendency. Outside of that it would have to be something in the fitting specs that is making you either close the face… Read more »
Thank you, Tom. Your expertise is always welcome. I will have those ideas examined.
The 575’s are great irons. Manufacturing quality and finish is second to none. After a couple months of play down to 2 or less chunked or thin strikes per round. Confident with 4 iron over a fairway wood. Also have 919 Driver and S2R putter. Can’t go wrong with a Wishon product!
Thanks very much Jim for your kind words in your comments about the 575’s, 919 driver and S2R putter! That really makes us feel good that you were able to find us and take the leap of faith to see that we do take this work very seriously and we’re not too bad at it after this many years ! Thanks again and the very best to you in this great game!
TOM