• The new look 919THI Driver retains the ultimate range of custom fit adaptability, designed with Wishon’s unique proprietary bendable hosel

  • Variable Thickness Face with High MOI delivers the best off centre hit performance in the game 

  • All 919THI drivers undergo 6 separate face thickness QC checks during production to ensure the highest conforming smash factor

  • The 919THI is available in RH in Low Launch (9º), Mid Launch (11º), High Launch (13º), and High Launch+ (15º), and LH in Mid Launch (11°). 

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JohanE
5 days ago

Tom
The new 2023 hybrids and fairways looks great. Can’t wait to test them out!
I also read there is a new 919 and 719 driver on the way. I’m playing the current 919 so I was curious how the new drivers differ in design and performance. Always nice to hear this from the brain behind the product!

Dave Pike
15 days ago

Hi Tom,

Any updates on when the new 719MV might be available?

Steve Hoard
26 days ago

Tom, I’m going to start working with Ed Ellis in a few days to custom fit driver for my bag. I have Wishon single length clubs from lob wedge to 4 wood now and find them key to my game. I’ve saved driver for last. I’m wondering if recent experience with my current TaylorMade Burner 10-degree driver and my Wishon 4 wood is helping me understand your premise about driver loft for senior players like me. My swing speed with driver is about 85-90, sometimes a bit more. I can reach 200-205 yards with my driver choked down to 43″.… Read more »

Steve Hoard
24 days ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

Thanks for the explanation, Tom. I hit a couple practice drives this evening ending my short game practice. I paid attention to the ball flight and its apex. I topped out at about 65 feet. Carry distance was 200 and 208 yards. I’ll be curious what Ed and I figure out about my angle of attack. It’s going to be fun. Thanks again.

Steve

Steve Hoard
23 days ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

I’ll let you know Tom. Thanks.

James
1 month ago

Hey Tom, I’ve been using an early model (~2013) 919THI w/SP700 face for quite a while now. I’ve always been a huge fan of drivers with SP700 faces, I’m apparently one of the few golfers who can notice an appreciable difference compared to materials like 6-4 or even 15-3-3-3. Almost every driver that I’ve ever truly loved over the years, has turned out to have an SP700 face (which I often didn’t know before I fell in love with it). I’ll be honest, I wasn’t a fan of the feel/sound of the 6-4 face that the 919THI switched to back… Read more »

James
1 month ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

I know the first gen with the blue crown and yellow half-moon shape had an SP700 face, and that one is easily distinguishable because it looks different. But didn’t the 2nd gen also have an SP700 face for a little while? I thought the change to 6-4 happened sometime around 2015, but the 2nd gen redesign happened in around 2011. So wouldn’t any 2nd gen head from 2011-2015 have an SP700 face? But even so, you’re saying there would be no way to tell since the heads are cosmetically identical after the 6-4 face material change?

Craig McMahon
1 month ago

Hi Tom, I’m looking to put my 919 back into play after a while not using it (sorry!!) due to me accidentally breaking the shaft while taking my clubs out the car. It originally had the S2S Black in 85g but since then I’ve had some back issues so reckon the 85g may be a bit heavy for me now. I’ve been using a 60g Kuro Kage shaft in my spare TM driver (which I really like). . What I’d like to know is, do I just go straight to the 65g S2S Black or is there something closer to… Read more »

Dave Pike
2 months ago

Hi Tom, Has there ever been a comparison by anyone of the 919THI to the latest and greatest from the big name brands? Wondering how a custom fit 919THI would stack up on the Trackman or GC quad launch monitors vs the new Calloway Paradym, Taylormade Stealth, Ping G430 or Cobra Aerojet etc.? Any chance anyone could do a club review on the new 719MV? I remember watching a Rick Shiels video a couple years ago do a review of the Sterling Irons. He seemed pretty impressed but didn’t like the lower ball flight of the 4 and 5 iron.… Read more »

Dave Pike
1 month ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

Thanks for the great reply Tom. I’ll definitely go to AGCP to see what feedback they can provide. Love your clubs! Just wanted to be able to point guys looking for new clubs in a direction where they can see the data supporting the benefits of the performance the Wishon line provides in comparison to what’s out there.

Thanks again!
Dave

1 month ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

Hi Tom What I expected you to say was something along these lines. I wonder if what I’m about to say is valid? There are a finite number of factors that can affect how far a driver can hit the ball, if you are talking about the head itself. These are spring effect (CoR), how much it twists (moi) and head volume (cc). Possibly also off centre hit forgiveness Since about 2006 there have been limits on these elements and all drivers made since around or soon after this time are as close to these limits as you can realistically… Read more »

Tom Summerhays
1 month ago
Reply to  Dave Pike

Hey Dave, I have a guy that likes to take his 919 into the shops to test against the latest releases, his club has better ball speeds than most, never beaten, matched occasionally. His latest report was “919THI beats TSR3” I get that kind of feedback often.

Dave Pike
15 days ago
Reply to  Tom Summerhays

That’s so cool to hear Tom! Would love to get his data of the clubs he’s compared his 919THI with, especially if he has data compared to the Paradym or Stealth etc…I absolutely love the 919, so much so I had my friend and clubmaker build me another one after my original that I absolutely used and abused for 3+ years finally suffered a crack. Hate to think how many hits I had on that thing considering how much I play and also hit it on the range. I’m looking forward to enjoying many more rounds with my new beloved… Read more »

Rog
3 months ago

Tom the folks At Diamond International and I am sure you have just released fantastic pictures and specs of the new 719MW Driver. I have a few questions for the head. Obviously adjustable on the hosel and a weighting system to help the draw, the fade, and center of gravity either rearward or forward. Your adjustable sleeve .. Will you have your own mechanism or will you use an adaptation of let’s say a Taylormade type or something like the Titleist? What will the head weight for the 719MW be before adding the weights? (raw weight 173 grams or so?)… Read more »

Rog
3 months ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

Tom first I want to thank you for your detailed answer. I will buy this driver, but I would also point out that the 919THI Driver with a bendable hosel plus the fact that you can hand select for loft still makes this a more than viable option. I am looking forward to the new wedges. Thanks Tom, Merry Christmas and a healthy New Year!

Nik
3 months ago

Hi Tom, After much use and abuse, my much loved 9 degree THI has finally given up. I was hitting bombs at the driving range today when the lovely sound changed. After a few more hits and duds, upon inspection, there was a crack running from the middle of the face right to one the lines on the sole of the club ill be happy to share pics if you email me. My replacement is going to be another THI. I’ve tried newer drivers over the years but always come back to using the THI. Thanks for making a great… Read more »

Marc
4 months ago

Hi Tom,

Would you have any suggestions on how one could obtain this clubhead? I live in Canada and frequently visit the United States.

I am a short individual with long arms. Thus I play my clubs very flat (5 iron@ 55.5 Degrees).

This is the first Driver that I’ve seen that is capable of being bent to 54 degrees flat.

Steve Hoard
6 months ago

Tom,

Ed Ellis just called me to say he could get 919 clubheads now. You and I had conversed recently about my options. I’m going ahead.

Ed and I haven’t discussed static loft for my new club but I’m wondering if a 13.5 degree might benefit. My current TaylorMade Burner is 10.5. My range with this club is between 180-200 yards with an apex of about 75 feet.

I know fairway conditions will impact my rollout but I’m wondering what to expect with a similar clubhead speed but with a higher static loft? Any thoughts?

Thanks much.

Steve

Steve Hoard
6 months ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

I think I’ve got it now. Thanks Tom. Ed and I will start working in a week or so.

Steve

Steve Hoard
5 months ago
Reply to  Steve Hoard

Tom, my question is related to my upcoming fitting work on driver with Ed Ellis. I’m curious to understand what is happening on the driver clubface and whether the clubface twists at impact when I hit slightly off center. You mention in your books that an off-center driver strike travels less distance and my experience confirms that. I’m a good 15 yards shorter with an off-center hit, even when the balls travels relatively close to my target line. Is this distance change due to the energy from impact being dissipated slightly by the clubhead twisting a bit? Not enough to… Read more »

Steve Hoard
5 months ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

Thanks for the explanation, Tom. I’ve never doubted your comments about shaft length, but for the last couple of months I’ve seen it in my driver hits. I spray talc sometimes on the driver clubface during practice and have seen the dispersion of my driver impacts narrow as I choke down. Full length dispersion is almost +/- 1.25″ or nearly the width of the clubface. Choking down on the club shaft a couple inches, my dispersion generally is less than +/-.75″ Thanks for the smash factor explanation. I hadn’t understood it before. I’ll keep you explanation in mind when Ed… Read more »

Tom
6 months ago

New 919 driver
Just put one together for a customer, his comment was it DOES NOT SOUND like my old one

Tom
9 months ago

I currently hit a Krank formula 6 driver with diamana kahli shaft reg flex I’m 70 and need more distance I was going to buy the new Krank x driver with maximum COR but I found out that it’s non conforming.. I’m looking for the highest COR driver that is conforming please advise. Also should I consider using the same shaft on a new head or is there something better. Thank you. Tom

Ray
10 months ago

Tom,

I notice that the 13-degree (and 15.5 degree) heads denote a 1-degree closed face angle.

Could you please elaborate as to why a 1-degree closed face angle was incorporated into the design on these two lofts?

Most appreciated!

JJ
11 months ago

Tom, I bought a PCF MICRO PRO wedge without test driving it first and am very pleased with its performance. Now, I’m interested in your driver and maybe some irons, but am hesitant to plop down big bucks without taking a demo to the range. The fitter I’m working with doesn’t have a demo. What do you advise? Thanks.

Steve Hoard
11 months ago

Tom, I’m going to finish fitting my two fairway woods this week with Ed Ellis and then consider working on a driver. I’m continuing trying to understand the science behind my clubs, beginning with my single length irons and single length hybrids. Driver seems a whole new ball game. I am using a Callaway Burner with a senior shaft right now. I hit it about 180; up to 200 if I hit it in the sweet spot. My swing speed at impact is about 85, sometimes a bit more. I’m sure Ed will have me try out various shafts with… Read more »

Steve Hoard
11 months ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

Yes, your thoughts make sense to me. I misnamed my drivers previously. I have TaylorMade Burners not Callaway. Today I put in about an hour at the range trying to understand why I tended to favor one of the Burners over the other. There was a clear difference not so much in total distance but in shot dispersion. I want to be equipped with this sense when I start working with Ed Ellis fitting my fairway woods followed by driver. The senior flex shaft driver, which I’ve been using and currently prefer, tended to fly straighter with a little less… Read more »

Steve Hoard
11 months ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

Tom, your thoughts do help. Your thoughts on the difference between flex and stiff driver shaft fits what I’ve been experiencing and yesterday’s focused practice. My hands tell me there is a bit of whip in the flexible shaft as I get around the ball. I’ve no photo evidence of this but my hands say so. And yes, my EQ1-NX single length irons and wedges are the best thing I’ve done with my game to date. Full swing results are clearly more consistent but my short game work using my single length sand wedge has improved significantly. There is much… Read more »

Steve Hoard
11 months ago
Reply to  Steve Hoard

Tom, Ed Ellis and I got together yesterday on the range to begin fitting fairway woods and talk about working with driver. We used an EQ1-NX 4-wood head and tested three shafts with club length about 40″. He has two more Wishon shafts coming this week and we’ll give these a go next weekend. This practice session was my first experience swinging a fairway wood. Previously my long clubs were standard length 41″ hybrids. So, I had a pretty steep learning curve with the 4-wood. I liked it though. Impacts felt good and I was pleasantly surprised to see my… Read more »

Steve Hoard
8 months ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

Tom, I’m looking forward to working with Ed Ellis to fit my driver very soon. Ed gave me my 9 wood a couple weeks ago, which is working nicely with my other two single length woods. I have single length Wishon clubs from lob wedge to 4 wood now. Not looking back. Am really pleased. I have a question about what to expect from the new driver, possibly with a higher loft. I currently use a TaylorMade Burner 10.5-degree in a flexible senior shaft. My swing speed is 80-85. My range is around 185-200 yds, rarely any more distance. I… Read more »

Steve Hoard
8 months ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

Tom, Thanks for your thoughts. I haven’t had my angle of attack measured with driver but I’m guessing I have an upward angle by the time I reach the ball. If I understand rightly, then I’d need a lower design loft in the clubface than the standard for my swing speed. Ed Ellis will know. I’m looking forward to starting my driver fitting. Loft will only be one detail. I’m particularly interested in shaft specifics too. I already know that my club length will be less than standard for driver. The impact pattern in the picture is for 5 strikes.… Read more »

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Lincoln
1 year ago

Hi Tom

I see that it seems that the 919THI is no longer offered in the LH model. I understand the challenges with global production. What are current models of drivers, woods and hybrids that are still offered in LH?

Thanks

1 year ago

Tom, I represent Meadowlake Golf Club in Keithville, LA as their IT person and their “golf club testing person”. I have been playing golf for about 45 years. Over the past 15 years I have owned just about every popular brand name of golf clubs in an obsessive search for the perfect set of clubs. When Meadowlake owner / swing coach / club fitter, Peter Winkler, told me he was interested in doing business with Wishon, I volunteered to purchase the 919 THI Black driver, 929 HS #4 fairway wood, and 989 CLA iron set 5 – AW. I also… Read more »

Steve Hoard
1 year ago

Tom, I’m getting ready to start fitting a driver with Ed Ellis, my local Wishon fitter. I have a question about driver loft. I have a full set of EQ1NX irons and wedges plus a 5 & 6 EQ1NX hybrids. Ed gave me the lob wedge just yesterday. It took a while with the pandemic to get these clubs, but they have transformed my game. I’m very pleased with the clubs and their fit. We used S2S R 55 blue shafts for the irons and S2S Hybrid R 55 black for the hybrids. Club length is 37.” I’m in my… Read more »

Steve Hoard
1 year ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

Thanks Tom. Your explanation of trajectory and roll makes sense. I hadn’t understood them, nor the differences brought on by fairway moisture levels. Ed Ellis is going to get me started on my fairway fitting process in a couple weeks. He has the EQ1NX clubheads for this. Concurrent with that we’ve decided to start experimenting with driver. Gonna be fun.

Steve

Dave Pike
1 year ago

Tom, I was also wondering how cold temperatures affect the durability of golf clubs. Living in Colorado Springs I play a lot of golf in the winter, temps in the 30s on the low side but many days in the 40s-50s even up to the low 60s for short stretches possible. As long as the course is playable snow wise and it’s not too windy I usually don’t slow down my normal routine of playing at least 3 times a week. The discussion below on durability has me wondering if I’m significantly lowering the life expectancy of my 919 THI… Read more »

Dave Pike
1 year ago

Hi Tom, I have a 919THI I’ve had for 3 years now and a 519 SHPR I got last year. I have the S-Flex Red shaft in both and I absolutely LOVE the different characteristics of each. I was curious your thoughts on other material components for driver heads. Taylor Made just came out with the “Stealth” carbon faced driver with the “twist-face” design. I know this concept has been tried before in the past and I understand it is a complete marketing gimmick as the testing seems to indicate it doesn’t improve on last year’s model. I’ve seen you’ve… Read more »

Dave Pike
1 year ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

Awesome! Love your clubs! Currently hitting the Sterling and I have an EQ1-NX 5i – LW set with Red S-Flex shafts on order with my friend and club fitter/maker Bill Nottingham so very much looking forward to that. Can’t wait to see what comes out next!

Dave

David A
1 year ago

Tom
Been using a 919THI that I was fit to a couple of years ago. During the fitting I was getting higher smash factor and more ball speed with the 919 compared to my gamer. Recently I converted my garage to a simulator room with a TrackMan 4 unit and land angle and spin with the 919THI is less consistent vs other drivers but smash is on avg higher. Spin is higher when I hit it low on the face.

Could it be the GRT roll doesn’t suit my 120mph swing?

Steve Williams
1 year ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

Tom, Your comment about life expectancy has me thinking. I had a 919THI 11 degree for almost 10 years but a few weeks ago while playing, I noticed a 2 inch crack on the sole up by the face. I’m sure it had just happened. Is 10 years about typical for life expectancy for drivers?

Jeffrey Jenkins
1 year ago

Hi Tom,

I’m a huge fan and devotee of your club designs including irons (Sterling & 752TC), hybrids (785HF) and woods (929HS). I have a 919THI (16.5*) that doesn’t seem to look like your current design. Were the “old” 919THI’s made with a volume less than 460CC? Thanks!

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Ash
1 year ago

Thank you for the email.

Its great to hear you are a fan of Tom’s designs, so thank you for that.

The 919 has always been 460cc to the best of my knowledge, the earlier model did have a slightly shorter hosel, so less of the chrome section.

Thanks,
Doug

Pat
1 year ago

Tom
I know your a strong proponent of playing the correct length driver. In my case shorter is better. 100 mph with driver. Cut a 45 inch at butt down to 42 and added 24 g to head weight. In theory will this work ? Also cut another to 43 and added 12g to head. Appreciate your thoughts. Pat

Pat
1 year ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

Amen. Makes me want to start a company just selling 42-44 inch 460cc drivers. F-Squared or FairwayFinder. Any concerns about shaft stiffness, flex, kick point, etc. I started with 45 inches in Stiff and cut to 42. Would you recommend starting with Regular flex and then cutting ? Alternatively would you use 3 wood shaft ? If you built one from scratch how would you go about it ?

Will play with head weights. Initial range results encouraging. Will test on course tomorrow

David MacLean
1 year ago

Hi Tom

Just purchased the 919 driver 9 degree.

I was going to ask, can one open up the face angle. The clubhead sits a little closed for me.
Points a little left.

With the bendable hosel…?

Thanks Tom

Regards
David

Dave Pike
1 year ago

Tom,
Interested to hear your take on Bryson Dechambeau’s driver issues highlighted at the Open this week. Noting his club company’s response, from a a clubhead designer’s perspective, is it even possible to build a driver for a golfer who swings like Bryson?

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JohanE
5 days ago

Tom
The new 2023 hybrids and fairways looks great. Can’t wait to test them out!
I also read there is a new 919 and 719 driver on the way. I’m playing the current 919 so I was curious how the new drivers differ in design and performance. Always nice to hear this from the brain behind the product!

Dave Pike
15 days ago

Hi Tom,

Any updates on when the new 719MV might be available?

Steve Hoard
26 days ago

Tom, I’m going to start working with Ed Ellis in a few days to custom fit driver for my bag. I have Wishon single length clubs from lob wedge to 4 wood now and find them key to my game. I’ve saved driver for last. I’m wondering if recent experience with my current TaylorMade Burner 10-degree driver and my Wishon 4 wood is helping me understand your premise about driver loft for senior players like me. My swing speed with driver is about 85-90, sometimes a bit more. I can reach 200-205 yards with my driver choked down to 43″.… Read more »

Steve Hoard
24 days ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

Thanks for the explanation, Tom. I hit a couple practice drives this evening ending my short game practice. I paid attention to the ball flight and its apex. I topped out at about 65 feet. Carry distance was 200 and 208 yards. I’ll be curious what Ed and I figure out about my angle of attack. It’s going to be fun. Thanks again.

Steve

Steve Hoard
23 days ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

I’ll let you know Tom. Thanks.

James
1 month ago

Hey Tom, I’ve been using an early model (~2013) 919THI w/SP700 face for quite a while now. I’ve always been a huge fan of drivers with SP700 faces, I’m apparently one of the few golfers who can notice an appreciable difference compared to materials like 6-4 or even 15-3-3-3. Almost every driver that I’ve ever truly loved over the years, has turned out to have an SP700 face (which I often didn’t know before I fell in love with it). I’ll be honest, I wasn’t a fan of the feel/sound of the 6-4 face that the 919THI switched to back… Read more »

James
1 month ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

I know the first gen with the blue crown and yellow half-moon shape had an SP700 face, and that one is easily distinguishable because it looks different. But didn’t the 2nd gen also have an SP700 face for a little while? I thought the change to 6-4 happened sometime around 2015, but the 2nd gen redesign happened in around 2011. So wouldn’t any 2nd gen head from 2011-2015 have an SP700 face? But even so, you’re saying there would be no way to tell since the heads are cosmetically identical after the 6-4 face material change?

Craig McMahon
1 month ago

Hi Tom, I’m looking to put my 919 back into play after a while not using it (sorry!!) due to me accidentally breaking the shaft while taking my clubs out the car. It originally had the S2S Black in 85g but since then I’ve had some back issues so reckon the 85g may be a bit heavy for me now. I’ve been using a 60g Kuro Kage shaft in my spare TM driver (which I really like). . What I’d like to know is, do I just go straight to the 65g S2S Black or is there something closer to… Read more »

Dave Pike
2 months ago

Hi Tom, Has there ever been a comparison by anyone of the 919THI to the latest and greatest from the big name brands? Wondering how a custom fit 919THI would stack up on the Trackman or GC quad launch monitors vs the new Calloway Paradym, Taylormade Stealth, Ping G430 or Cobra Aerojet etc.? Any chance anyone could do a club review on the new 719MV? I remember watching a Rick Shiels video a couple years ago do a review of the Sterling Irons. He seemed pretty impressed but didn’t like the lower ball flight of the 4 and 5 iron.… Read more »

Dave Pike
1 month ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

Thanks for the great reply Tom. I’ll definitely go to AGCP to see what feedback they can provide. Love your clubs! Just wanted to be able to point guys looking for new clubs in a direction where they can see the data supporting the benefits of the performance the Wishon line provides in comparison to what’s out there.

Thanks again!
Dave

1 month ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

Hi Tom What I expected you to say was something along these lines. I wonder if what I’m about to say is valid? There are a finite number of factors that can affect how far a driver can hit the ball, if you are talking about the head itself. These are spring effect (CoR), how much it twists (moi) and head volume (cc). Possibly also off centre hit forgiveness Since about 2006 there have been limits on these elements and all drivers made since around or soon after this time are as close to these limits as you can realistically… Read more »

Tom Summerhays
1 month ago
Reply to  Dave Pike

Hey Dave, I have a guy that likes to take his 919 into the shops to test against the latest releases, his club has better ball speeds than most, never beaten, matched occasionally. His latest report was “919THI beats TSR3” I get that kind of feedback often.

Dave Pike
15 days ago
Reply to  Tom Summerhays

That’s so cool to hear Tom! Would love to get his data of the clubs he’s compared his 919THI with, especially if he has data compared to the Paradym or Stealth etc…I absolutely love the 919, so much so I had my friend and clubmaker build me another one after my original that I absolutely used and abused for 3+ years finally suffered a crack. Hate to think how many hits I had on that thing considering how much I play and also hit it on the range. I’m looking forward to enjoying many more rounds with my new beloved… Read more »

Rog
3 months ago

Tom the folks At Diamond International and I am sure you have just released fantastic pictures and specs of the new 719MW Driver. I have a few questions for the head. Obviously adjustable on the hosel and a weighting system to help the draw, the fade, and center of gravity either rearward or forward. Your adjustable sleeve .. Will you have your own mechanism or will you use an adaptation of let’s say a Taylormade type or something like the Titleist? What will the head weight for the 719MW be before adding the weights? (raw weight 173 grams or so?)… Read more »

Rog
3 months ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

Tom first I want to thank you for your detailed answer. I will buy this driver, but I would also point out that the 919THI Driver with a bendable hosel plus the fact that you can hand select for loft still makes this a more than viable option. I am looking forward to the new wedges. Thanks Tom, Merry Christmas and a healthy New Year!

Nik
3 months ago

Hi Tom, After much use and abuse, my much loved 9 degree THI has finally given up. I was hitting bombs at the driving range today when the lovely sound changed. After a few more hits and duds, upon inspection, there was a crack running from the middle of the face right to one the lines on the sole of the club ill be happy to share pics if you email me. My replacement is going to be another THI. I’ve tried newer drivers over the years but always come back to using the THI. Thanks for making a great… Read more »

Marc
4 months ago

Hi Tom,

Would you have any suggestions on how one could obtain this clubhead? I live in Canada and frequently visit the United States.

I am a short individual with long arms. Thus I play my clubs very flat (5 iron@ 55.5 Degrees).

This is the first Driver that I’ve seen that is capable of being bent to 54 degrees flat.

Steve Hoard
6 months ago

Tom,

Ed Ellis just called me to say he could get 919 clubheads now. You and I had conversed recently about my options. I’m going ahead.

Ed and I haven’t discussed static loft for my new club but I’m wondering if a 13.5 degree might benefit. My current TaylorMade Burner is 10.5. My range with this club is between 180-200 yards with an apex of about 75 feet.

I know fairway conditions will impact my rollout but I’m wondering what to expect with a similar clubhead speed but with a higher static loft? Any thoughts?

Thanks much.

Steve

Steve Hoard
6 months ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

I think I’ve got it now. Thanks Tom. Ed and I will start working in a week or so.

Steve

Steve Hoard
5 months ago
Reply to  Steve Hoard

Tom, my question is related to my upcoming fitting work on driver with Ed Ellis. I’m curious to understand what is happening on the driver clubface and whether the clubface twists at impact when I hit slightly off center. You mention in your books that an off-center driver strike travels less distance and my experience confirms that. I’m a good 15 yards shorter with an off-center hit, even when the balls travels relatively close to my target line. Is this distance change due to the energy from impact being dissipated slightly by the clubhead twisting a bit? Not enough to… Read more »

Steve Hoard
5 months ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

Thanks for the explanation, Tom. I’ve never doubted your comments about shaft length, but for the last couple of months I’ve seen it in my driver hits. I spray talc sometimes on the driver clubface during practice and have seen the dispersion of my driver impacts narrow as I choke down. Full length dispersion is almost +/- 1.25″ or nearly the width of the clubface. Choking down on the club shaft a couple inches, my dispersion generally is less than +/-.75″ Thanks for the smash factor explanation. I hadn’t understood it before. I’ll keep you explanation in mind when Ed… Read more »

Tom
6 months ago

New 919 driver
Just put one together for a customer, his comment was it DOES NOT SOUND like my old one

Tom
9 months ago

I currently hit a Krank formula 6 driver with diamana kahli shaft reg flex I’m 70 and need more distance I was going to buy the new Krank x driver with maximum COR but I found out that it’s non conforming.. I’m looking for the highest COR driver that is conforming please advise. Also should I consider using the same shaft on a new head or is there something better. Thank you. Tom

Ray
10 months ago

Tom,

I notice that the 13-degree (and 15.5 degree) heads denote a 1-degree closed face angle.

Could you please elaborate as to why a 1-degree closed face angle was incorporated into the design on these two lofts?

Most appreciated!

JJ
11 months ago

Tom, I bought a PCF MICRO PRO wedge without test driving it first and am very pleased with its performance. Now, I’m interested in your driver and maybe some irons, but am hesitant to plop down big bucks without taking a demo to the range. The fitter I’m working with doesn’t have a demo. What do you advise? Thanks.

Steve Hoard
11 months ago

Tom, I’m going to finish fitting my two fairway woods this week with Ed Ellis and then consider working on a driver. I’m continuing trying to understand the science behind my clubs, beginning with my single length irons and single length hybrids. Driver seems a whole new ball game. I am using a Callaway Burner with a senior shaft right now. I hit it about 180; up to 200 if I hit it in the sweet spot. My swing speed at impact is about 85, sometimes a bit more. I’m sure Ed will have me try out various shafts with… Read more »

Steve Hoard
11 months ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

Yes, your thoughts make sense to me. I misnamed my drivers previously. I have TaylorMade Burners not Callaway. Today I put in about an hour at the range trying to understand why I tended to favor one of the Burners over the other. There was a clear difference not so much in total distance but in shot dispersion. I want to be equipped with this sense when I start working with Ed Ellis fitting my fairway woods followed by driver. The senior flex shaft driver, which I’ve been using and currently prefer, tended to fly straighter with a little less… Read more »

Steve Hoard
11 months ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

Tom, your thoughts do help. Your thoughts on the difference between flex and stiff driver shaft fits what I’ve been experiencing and yesterday’s focused practice. My hands tell me there is a bit of whip in the flexible shaft as I get around the ball. I’ve no photo evidence of this but my hands say so. And yes, my EQ1-NX single length irons and wedges are the best thing I’ve done with my game to date. Full swing results are clearly more consistent but my short game work using my single length sand wedge has improved significantly. There is much… Read more »

Steve Hoard
11 months ago
Reply to  Steve Hoard

Tom, Ed Ellis and I got together yesterday on the range to begin fitting fairway woods and talk about working with driver. We used an EQ1-NX 4-wood head and tested three shafts with club length about 40″. He has two more Wishon shafts coming this week and we’ll give these a go next weekend. This practice session was my first experience swinging a fairway wood. Previously my long clubs were standard length 41″ hybrids. So, I had a pretty steep learning curve with the 4-wood. I liked it though. Impacts felt good and I was pleasantly surprised to see my… Read more »

Steve Hoard
8 months ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

Tom, I’m looking forward to working with Ed Ellis to fit my driver very soon. Ed gave me my 9 wood a couple weeks ago, which is working nicely with my other two single length woods. I have single length Wishon clubs from lob wedge to 4 wood now. Not looking back. Am really pleased. I have a question about what to expect from the new driver, possibly with a higher loft. I currently use a TaylorMade Burner 10.5-degree in a flexible senior shaft. My swing speed is 80-85. My range is around 185-200 yds, rarely any more distance. I… Read more »

Steve Hoard
8 months ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

Tom, Thanks for your thoughts. I haven’t had my angle of attack measured with driver but I’m guessing I have an upward angle by the time I reach the ball. If I understand rightly, then I’d need a lower design loft in the clubface than the standard for my swing speed. Ed Ellis will know. I’m looking forward to starting my driver fitting. Loft will only be one detail. I’m particularly interested in shaft specifics too. I already know that my club length will be less than standard for driver. The impact pattern in the picture is for 5 strikes.… Read more »

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Lincoln
1 year ago

Hi Tom

I see that it seems that the 919THI is no longer offered in the LH model. I understand the challenges with global production. What are current models of drivers, woods and hybrids that are still offered in LH?

Thanks

1 year ago

Tom, I represent Meadowlake Golf Club in Keithville, LA as their IT person and their “golf club testing person”. I have been playing golf for about 45 years. Over the past 15 years I have owned just about every popular brand name of golf clubs in an obsessive search for the perfect set of clubs. When Meadowlake owner / swing coach / club fitter, Peter Winkler, told me he was interested in doing business with Wishon, I volunteered to purchase the 919 THI Black driver, 929 HS #4 fairway wood, and 989 CLA iron set 5 – AW. I also… Read more »

Steve Hoard
1 year ago

Tom, I’m getting ready to start fitting a driver with Ed Ellis, my local Wishon fitter. I have a question about driver loft. I have a full set of EQ1NX irons and wedges plus a 5 & 6 EQ1NX hybrids. Ed gave me the lob wedge just yesterday. It took a while with the pandemic to get these clubs, but they have transformed my game. I’m very pleased with the clubs and their fit. We used S2S R 55 blue shafts for the irons and S2S Hybrid R 55 black for the hybrids. Club length is 37.” I’m in my… Read more »

Steve Hoard
1 year ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

Thanks Tom. Your explanation of trajectory and roll makes sense. I hadn’t understood them, nor the differences brought on by fairway moisture levels. Ed Ellis is going to get me started on my fairway fitting process in a couple weeks. He has the EQ1NX clubheads for this. Concurrent with that we’ve decided to start experimenting with driver. Gonna be fun.

Steve

Dave Pike
1 year ago

Tom, I was also wondering how cold temperatures affect the durability of golf clubs. Living in Colorado Springs I play a lot of golf in the winter, temps in the 30s on the low side but many days in the 40s-50s even up to the low 60s for short stretches possible. As long as the course is playable snow wise and it’s not too windy I usually don’t slow down my normal routine of playing at least 3 times a week. The discussion below on durability has me wondering if I’m significantly lowering the life expectancy of my 919 THI… Read more »

Dave Pike
1 year ago

Hi Tom, I have a 919THI I’ve had for 3 years now and a 519 SHPR I got last year. I have the S-Flex Red shaft in both and I absolutely LOVE the different characteristics of each. I was curious your thoughts on other material components for driver heads. Taylor Made just came out with the “Stealth” carbon faced driver with the “twist-face” design. I know this concept has been tried before in the past and I understand it is a complete marketing gimmick as the testing seems to indicate it doesn’t improve on last year’s model. I’ve seen you’ve… Read more »

Dave Pike
1 year ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

Awesome! Love your clubs! Currently hitting the Sterling and I have an EQ1-NX 5i – LW set with Red S-Flex shafts on order with my friend and club fitter/maker Bill Nottingham so very much looking forward to that. Can’t wait to see what comes out next!

Dave

David A
1 year ago

Tom
Been using a 919THI that I was fit to a couple of years ago. During the fitting I was getting higher smash factor and more ball speed with the 919 compared to my gamer. Recently I converted my garage to a simulator room with a TrackMan 4 unit and land angle and spin with the 919THI is less consistent vs other drivers but smash is on avg higher. Spin is higher when I hit it low on the face.

Could it be the GRT roll doesn’t suit my 120mph swing?

Steve Williams
1 year ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

Tom, Your comment about life expectancy has me thinking. I had a 919THI 11 degree for almost 10 years but a few weeks ago while playing, I noticed a 2 inch crack on the sole up by the face. I’m sure it had just happened. Is 10 years about typical for life expectancy for drivers?

Jeffrey Jenkins
1 year ago

Hi Tom,

I’m a huge fan and devotee of your club designs including irons (Sterling & 752TC), hybrids (785HF) and woods (929HS). I have a 919THI (16.5*) that doesn’t seem to look like your current design. Were the “old” 919THI’s made with a volume less than 460CC? Thanks!

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Ash
1 year ago

Thank you for the email.

Its great to hear you are a fan of Tom’s designs, so thank you for that.

The 919 has always been 460cc to the best of my knowledge, the earlier model did have a slightly shorter hosel, so less of the chrome section.

Thanks,
Doug

Pat
1 year ago

Tom
I know your a strong proponent of playing the correct length driver. In my case shorter is better. 100 mph with driver. Cut a 45 inch at butt down to 42 and added 24 g to head weight. In theory will this work ? Also cut another to 43 and added 12g to head. Appreciate your thoughts. Pat

Pat
1 year ago
Reply to  Tom Wishon

Amen. Makes me want to start a company just selling 42-44 inch 460cc drivers. F-Squared or FairwayFinder. Any concerns about shaft stiffness, flex, kick point, etc. I started with 45 inches in Stiff and cut to 42. Would you recommend starting with Regular flex and then cutting ? Alternatively would you use 3 wood shaft ? If you built one from scratch how would you go about it ?

Will play with head weights. Initial range results encouraging. Will test on course tomorrow

David MacLean
1 year ago

Hi Tom

Just purchased the 919 driver 9 degree.

I was going to ask, can one open up the face angle. The clubhead sits a little closed for me.
Points a little left.

With the bendable hosel…?

Thanks Tom

Regards
David

Dave Pike
1 year ago

Tom,
Interested to hear your take on Bryson Dechambeau’s driver issues highlighted at the Open this week. Noting his club company’s response, from a a clubhead designer’s perspective, is it even possible to build a driver for a golfer who swings like Bryson?