565MC FORGED IRONS

PAUL I need to explain that Wishon Golf is not like any other golf company you are used to seeing. All those other companies pre build their designs into standard made clubs that can be shipped to retailers to be sold standard off the rack. Therefore, all those other companies do have to choose a standard swingweight and standard length and standard everything for their club models. Wishon Golf does not sell pre built golf clubs. We sell our clubhead designs, shaft designs and grip designs as COMPONENTS to independent custom clubmakers all over the US and Canada and the… Read more »

Steve

If you are a clubmaker, you can contact Diamond Golf directly toll free at 844-552-3437 to order any individual heads in any set model that you need. or you can email them at sales@wishongolf.com to do the same thing. If you are not a clubmaker, then you will need to get your clubmaker to do the ordering since Diamond Golf only distributes and sells to certified custom clubmakers. Hope this helps,
TOM

Julian There used to be a 3 iron in the 565 set when the model was first designed and introduced. However, in the years the 565s have been in the product line, you could just about count the number of 3 irons sold on two hands. Clubhead production factories all have minimum order quantities for manufacturing the individual heads in any set and unfortunately the demand for 3 irons fell way, WAY below what the minimum order quantity (MOQ) is for making the 3 irons. So we had to discontinue the 3 irons in pretty much most all of the… Read more »

Warren The picture in this comment post from you is our model 771CSI iron. The other pic you posted is the 565MC irons. These are totally different iron models so I am very confused as to what happened. What model did you ask for to begin with? Or did the clubmaker tell you he was fitting you with a model and delivered a different one? I don’t quite understand. At any rate, the clubmaker or retailer where you got the clubs is where you need to go to resolve this situation because they made the transaction with you. Please let… Read more »

Baden Yes and decided not to go that route because of the much higher cost of forging dies and production vs that of investment casting. Forging die cost is 6-7 times higher per head number than inv cast die cost. And the production cost of a forging is about 3-4 times more than the cost of a casting. You certainly can do a single length design via forging but it would end up costing about 2x as much at retail than every other inv cast single length set, if not more than that. Also, the vast number of golfers who… Read more »

DAVID Not in a PLAYER’S forged iron – the only possible benefit of using tungsten in an iron design is to, 1) lower the CG more to assist getting the ball up, 2) increasing the MOI more for better off center hit performance. Both those things have much more of a home with game improvemnt iron designs than with iron designs for lower handicap players. And for a super game improvement iron, it would be better to cast the clubhead than to forge it, with one VERY EXPENSIVE exception – it is possible to forge pure titanium (non alloyed) which… Read more »

TOM Absolutely. The 565’s, like all of our forged carbon steel irons, are forged from 1030 carbon steel. In the realm of carbon steel alloys, 1015 is the softest and 1075 is the hardest, with 1075 still being far softer than the common stainless steels used in casting iron heads today. So yes, any low carbon steel alloy iron is going to ding up pretty easily because that is a part of the steel being so soft, comparatively. Two years is a little quick but if you have been hitting balls and playing 3, 4, 5 times a week, that… Read more »

CHAD
Yes, ever so slightly the leading edge is rounded a little more on the 565 than on the older predecessor, the 560. But the sole radius from face to back across the sole is essentially the same on the 565 as it was on the 560. Thanks very much for your interest,
TOM

Alastair That sounds reasonable to me other than the fact you don’t really have a specific wedge for use from sand or to use when you need to hit very high, soft landing finesse shots around the green. Thus you might consider the SW instead of the AW and you could bend the SW to say, 54* loft so it could still function ok for the sand and for finesse shots but still perhaps have a low enough loft to be a wedge for approach shots too. Also you don’t really have a long 2nd shot club other than the… Read more »

Alex Thanks very much for taking the time to stop by and visit about your club needs. I appreciate your interest and am always willing to help. First of all, I am VERY pleased you decided to work with Rick because he truly is a very gifted and experienced custom clubmaker. Any time I hear of someone working with Rick I know they will get the best quality fit available anywhere today. There is no tried and true benchmark for how much clubhead speed a golfer will gain from longer length clubs. Sometimes the longer length causes the golfer to… Read more »

Dennis Much as I am sure it would be nice to have such a nice looking iron with that fully milled back design in your bag, I have to be honest and tell you that most likely you would not see much of a difference for how the 565 travels through rough vs the 755 because first, the two sole designs are not all that different, and two, what helps get an iron through rough better has nothing to do with the iron design itself but is all about clubhead speed AND angle of attack into the ball. Both which… Read more »

JOHN Thanks very much for taking the time to stop by with your questions. We’re always happy to help. Shane is not in the custom club business anymore and has not been for several years now. In terms of your driver head model, there really in all honesty is nothing any better out there – in fact this is why we still have the 919THI in our design line today after all these years! The other driver option we have, the 519, is simply the same technology as the 919 but in a little smaller size for golfers who prefer… Read more »

DAC After we developed the industry’s first MOI matching equipment and technology there have been a few people who have gone from that to add other factors such as balance point or swingweight to go with the MOI match. I don’t discount these because they are all working to try to make the clubs swing more with a similar feel and effort to the golfer. Some of these methods to do this will involve weighting in the butt end so as to allow the balance point to move where the clubmaker wants it. But I do not agree at all… Read more »

JACK Thanks much for stopping by with your question. And thanks much for your well wishes for us during these challenging times. Some of us are very fortunate to have our golf courses open and though with many safety restrictions it is great to still be able to get out there and enjoy the game. I would say that with a 101 driver clubhead speed, you should have enough speed to be able to elevate the shot properly with the 3 iron when you make a solid on center strike. 565 do have what in today’s vernacular might be considered… Read more »

PAVAN The White iron shaft is pretty similar to the Dynalite 100 with the only difference being the Dynalite is very slightly stiffer in the butt but then very slightly softer in the tip. Those two differences sort of cancel each other out to make the shaft pretty close to the White. The NV65 and Blue 55 both have about the same butt stiffness but then the NV is slightly stiffer in the middle and in the tip section than the Blue. So you probably would notice that the NV would play a little stiffer than the Blue. To make… Read more »

Pavan Absolutely I am happy to answer your questions. 1) There are two major differences between the 565 and 575. The 565 is definitely a larger size head. The 575 is actually slightly small compared to other shallow cavity back models, while the 565 is slightly larger than other forged cavity back irons, but not by a large amount. If you put the 565 and 575 down side by side behind a ball, you definitely would see the 565 being bigger. Second, the 565 has a much deeper back cavity so this along with the larger size means that the… Read more »

MARK: In truth, one would need to know a little more than the handicap to offer a more complete/accurate recommendation for an iron head model. But I can respond with some points so you can think about it and make your own decision. The main reason a golf would opt for the 771 over the 565 would be, a) if he felt he needed more distance with the irons which will happen from the high COR face. b) if he felt he needed a strong level of off center hit distance improvement which will come from the variable thickness face.… Read more »

MICHAEL I am very sorry but the chances of us offering any of our FORGED carbon steel iron designs in left hand are very small to nil. Unfortunately the reason is the far higher cost of making forging dies and the far smaller demand in left hand for clubheads. At present from my experience in design and clubmaking component sales, no left hand model I have offered has ever achieved more than 8% of the demand it does in the right hand version. This is understandable since the percentage of left hand golfers in the USA is only 6% which… Read more »

JAY I assume when you aske about the length of the 565 and 575 you are talking about the size of the head, namely the head length from heel to toe. The 565 are slightly larger and slightly taller than the 550s while the 575’s are just ever so slightly smaller in head height and head length than the 550s but not by very much I can tell you. If you do not like the shorter head players clubs on the market then probably the 575s would be smaller than you like while the 565s would be more acceptable to… Read more »