771 CSI


771CSI  Carbon Steel Irons

All New Thin Face, High COR, Variable Thickness Face in a Carbon Steel Body to Offer a HotList-Icon2014Wide Range in Lie and Loft Bending for Custom Fitting



  • High 0.830 COR face design offers the most distance for all golfers.
  • CNC Machined Variable Thickness Face delivers superb off-center hit forgiveness.
  • Head body material is 1020C carbon steel to allow clubmakers to perform a wide range in loft and lie bending – previously all high COR thin face designs had to be mounted in a 17-4 stainless body, which limited loft and lie fitting options.
  • Conventional Head Size and Shape means a wider range of golfers will like the 771CSI design.
  • Fully Radiused Sole Design with Rounded Leading Edge offers golfers the best playability from all types of grass as well as from the rough.
  • Available in RH & LH in  #4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, PW, (AW RH only) in bright satin NiCr electroplated finish


A 360º view of the 771CSI Iron Clubhead.

Ratings and Reviews

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Rating: 4.4/5 (143 votes cast)


771 CSI, 4.4 out of 5 based on 143 ratings


  1. 771CSI Another fine set of RH clubs that a lefthander cannot use. So much for growing the game ?

    • If you can wait until April, 2014, you WILL BE ABLE TO GET THIS EXCELLENT IRON IN LEFT HAND!!


    • I agree TW makes very good clubs, but I wish there were more LH selections. I’m glad to see TW gave reason why , unfortunately the drought of LH selection will remain.,

    • I know it seems we do not have the depth of left hand models because we cannot tool any of the forgings in left hand, and we always have to wait to see if a new model is going to be popular enough so that when we apply the 8% factor to it, we could know if the investment in the left hand tooling would be viable. But right now in left hand we do have – 919 drivers in 11 & 13.5; 929HS fwys in 3 & 5; new 925 fwys will be in 3/5/7; 775HS hybrid #3, 331H hybrid in 3, 4, 752TC and 979SS irons, PCF wedges in 52/56, HM wedge in 56.


    • If you can wait until April, 2014, you WILL BE ABLE TO GET THIS EXCELLENT IRON IN LEFT HAND!!

  2. Well,they look superb and I ordered them. Where can I find those 31 ratings mentioned above? I suppose these ratings must be based on tests carried out by players…

  3. Any chance you’ll release a 3 iron in this model? Us midwest guys need that low launch angle and lower spin to fight the high winds in the summer!


      These days in the golf equipment business, making a 3 iron in any set of irons is very much a losing proposition due to the extreme decrease in demand seen over the past ten years. This is of course because of the popularity of hybrids as long iron replacement clubs. Back in the 90s, it was typical to see that 3 irons sold in a quantity of about 40% of the number of #5 to PW’s in a set. Today that number is less than 5%. So when smaller size companies like us factor in the cost of tooling and inventory to make a 3 iron, it just does not add up anymore. As to needing the club to keep the ball down in the wind, think of it this way – today’s 4 irons have the loft of a 3 iron from the 90s and a 2 iron from the 80s. So if you used a 3 iron some years ago to keep the ball down, today you can use a 4 iron and achieve the same results!!


  4. One quick question , i have the 765 which helped me to go from 41 to 20 as handicap, i want to change now , should i go for the 771 or wait for the 560 later . Playing with white shaft in 75 , perfect for me

    • Stephane:

      Congratulations on making such a HUGE improvement in your game!! Wow, going from 41 to 20 is an amazing improvement. Very well done indeed!! One of the things you need to keep in mind when considering a change in your iron head model is the fact that the loft angles for each head in the 765WS set are lower than the lofts per head on the 560’s and 771’s. That means if you were to change to the 560’s, you would find that you would hit each 560 iron a little bit shorter in distance than you presently hit the 765’s. However, this would not be the case with the 771’s because they are designed with a high COR face. So even with the lofts per head being a tiny bit higher on the 771’s than on the 765’s, that high COR face of the 771’s would make up that distance so in the end, you would either hit the 771’s the same distance as the 765’s or possibly just a little longer.

      One thing you would gain with the 771’s is better off center hit performance. The 765’s are indeed a deep cavity back design and do have good off center hit performance, but the variable thickness face of the 771’s would increase the off center hit performance over what you get right now. So in the long run, I do think with all things being considered that you would be better off making the iron change to the 771CSI model.

      Thanks again for your interest in our company and again, our most enthusiastic congratulations to you for your improvement in the game!!


  5. Dear Tom

    thank you for your advice and your great products, i ordered them and my CM will make them perfectly for me , they will join the rest of my Wishon bag

    thanks again


  6. I currently play the old 939h iron design (& obviously have for quite some time). I love durable irons where the grooves retain their edge, lofts/lies don’t creep and soles don’t get big dings from the occasional hidden pebble. I take it the perimeter design here is roughly as soft as forged? For what I’m looking for would suggest sticking with a 17-4 iron head, or are there other materials that I should be looking at? Btw, I LOVE my full wishon set…especially the 919 driver and these irons! thanks.

    • PETE:

      If you are looking for a HIGH COR iron design with the body made from 17-4 stainless so it can resist moving and dinging more over time, then the model would be our 870Ti irons instead of the 771CSI irons. The 870s are a high COR design for sure, so increased distance over any conventional iron such as the 939H is pretty much guaranteed. The body of the 870 is 17-4 stainless, so with that you get the highest surface hardness of an alloy used to make an iron head, and from that would come more resistance to dings and dents. But also with the 17-4 you get more resistance to loft lie bending. However, we can bend the 870s when necessary for the golfer’s fitting needs by +/-2* from the loft and lie spec for each 870 head.

      Thanks much!!


  7. Just had a set of 771CSI’s fitted to S2S White graphite shafts. Previous irons are 770 CFE with steel shafts (good clubs). The 771’s are better. Never played graphite in and iron. These look good at adress, feel perfect at hit, and give me about 3 to 6 yards more distance with good accuracy. Excellent feel and feedback around greens on those delicate shots. At 70 years old, a 10 handicap, the 771 CSI product add a lot of fun to the game.



    • BOB:

      Thanks so much for taking your time to let us know how much you like the new 771 irons. May I say that I have a big smile on my face as I think about the smile on your face after playing the clubs! I’ll also tell you that I am 62 and just this year I have noticed that I am about a half club shorter with my 560MC irons that I have been playing since I first designed them. This is of course thanks to a little drop in clubhead speed since I am 62, so as soon as we know that we have plenty of the 771’s in stock, I think I am going to go steal a set for myself!!!

      Thanks again and the very best wishes to you in this great game!


  8. Tom ,
    771CSI,what a great set of irons!!! (in all aspects).

  9. Hello Tom:
    I have a set of your 555c irons with KBS shafts that Michael Clark of Berkeley has recently installed for me. I like the feel of the clubs when I hit them properly. Problem is, the sweet spot is fairly precise and when I’m not in the center, I lose distance and feel it in my right arm. Maybe I should have had some graphite shafts installed instead. Maybe I should have gotten a set that is more forgiving. I’m about a 15 (at a fit 67) and have always used cast clubs that have fairly generous hitting areas. I also notice some loss of distance in comparison with my Cobra S3s (w/ steel)or my old Callaway X-20s (w/ graphite). I’ve wondered whether I should have the lofts increased to match the more conventional hyped-up lofts of these clubs so I won’t have to refigure all of my distances. And I’d rather not have to try to swing harder to get the same results with the standard lofts that the 555s have. Any suggestions?

    • JAMES

      Glad to hear you worked with Michael Clark for yout club needs. I’ve personally known Michael for a very long time in the clubmaking industry and he is a real credit to the craft – plus he’s a really nice guy who will take the time to explain things in more detail to the golfers who see him for their fitting needs.

      You might give Michael a call and see if he has access to a shaft vibration dampening device from any of his suppliers. Some shaft companies have made certain models of their steel shafts with their own vibration dampening device installed in their shaft models for the very purpose you talk about – reducing the effects of the higher levels of vibration from the steel shaft at impact on joint paint in golfers. There have been a couple of companies in the industry who have developed their own dampeners that they have made available to clubmakers for the very purpose you bring up. In all honesty I have not kept up with this very much over the past several years so I can’t actually tell you what other companies in the industry might still be offering such a device to put in the steel shafts to reduce vibration.

      But I can tell you that many of the clubmakers on their own through their resourcefulness have come up with their own version for such a device. Some things that do reduce vibration that can be inserted into the shafts include, 1) rubber spark plug covers – yes, sounds odd, but it just so happens that a common rubber spark plug cover sold at an auto parts store fits perfectly into the grip end of the shaft and can reduce steel shaft vibration; 2) smaller diameter foam rods inserted into the grip end of the shaft can do the same thing. You or Michael might have to hunt around a little, but there are foam rods made in 1/2″ to 5/8″ diameter that can be pushed into the grip end of the shaft that can reduce steel shaft vibrations enough to offer some relief from effect of the shafts’ vibration on your arm. These are all very inexpensive things to try out first to see if they offer some help before thinking about changing shafts completely to graphite.

      Hope this helps,


  10. Tom,

    I built a demo set of 771s with KBS 130 stiff shafts for my shop. I started with one club in my bag to try. Now have full set of 771s replacing my Wishon 555s.

    Just a terrific club. Good feel, different sound off face than 555 but ball goes straight.

    Thank you. JR

    • JR

      Thank you for your comment. We’re very pleased to hear that you too like the performance of the 771 irons. This really has been a very enjoyable model for me to be able to design, both from the challenge to create it, but now that it is finished, it is really enjoyable to be able to hear from so many golfers who are using the 771 that they really like how it plays. Again, thanks for taking your time to comment and may the 771’s always behave themselves so well for you and your game!!


  11. I just came across your site and am intrigued to say the least. I saw your name on a website for a custom fitter in my area (ADS Golf) and on Golf WRX so I came here to find out more. I currently play to an 8.3 index but tend to hit many balls low on the face, which tends to rob me of distance.
    My current set is Ping i20s, 5-LW, in their stock CFS stiff shafts. I’m looking to get into a newer set of irons later this year (I’m waiting for the Titleist 714s to come out). I am also interested in trying TM’s Rocketbladez Tour irons because they advertise a larger sweet spot and minimal loss of distance when hit lower on the face. Could you give me your opinion of how the 771 CSIs compare with off-center (low) hits? Thanks in advance for you response.

    • GL:

      Boy is it a good deal that you are close to ADS Golf. Gene Bonk of ADS is truly, and I mean this sincerely, one of THE very best clubfitters in the whole country. I have known Gene for years, have communicated with him a lot on technical matters, and have heard from several of the golfers who he has fit after they went to see him who have dug up our company email address to tell us what a great fitting experience that Gene provided. Without question he can help you so do give him a call, book a fitting analysis and Gene can answer all your questions and prove to you how professional fitting can help.

      But for a quick answer to your question about the 771CSI irons and low face hits, because the 771 face is a CNC machined variable thickness face, this really does allow the face to flex inward a little more for off center hits, regardless if the offcenter hit is a little high, toe, heel or low from the center of the face. The variable thickness face means the ball speed does not drop as much from the off center hit as it will on irons without this type of face design. But really, the proof is in the pudding so go see Gene, have him let you hit test 771 irons and you will see for yourself.

      Thanks much


  12. This year I finally ponied up and had a custom 3 hour fitting from a top notch club fitter in San Francisco. Results ended up being +1/2 and 2* upright. In years past I’ve always relied on the local golf superstore with their local guru pushing OEM. Usually I don’t take the time to post reviews but the 771’s have been a life changing experience for me.

    If anybody would have told me I would end up buying non OEM irons and graphite shafts before the fitting I would have told them they were absolutely crazy! My quick bio about me is I’m 50 years old and a 12 handicap with a average driver SS of 98 and 6 iron SS of 86.

    After the 3 hour fitting and having results that were almost to good to be true with the 771 I was ready to buy right then and there but John insisted I try one club in the real world and let him know the results. The results ended up being the exact same as the simulator. The combination of the 771’s with Steel Fiber i95 just seem like a match made in heaven for me. After three rounds at the local course I have yet to miss a green with the 6 iron. Can hardly wait to get my 771’s with the HM wedges. Feel like a 12 year old waiting on Christmas morning :)

    • RICK:

      Many thanks for taking your time to post your experience with the new 771CSI irons! We’re all very pleased to hear that you like the new irons and they are performing well for you. Thanks as well a LOT for finding John Taylor to work to on your fitting requirements. John is a true professional in custom clubfitting and is very knowledgeable in the field so you did right for sure in deciding to work with him. BTW, my roots in the golf equipment industry began in the Bay Area so I have always had a real appreciation for the many great courses in that area. The VERY best wishes to you in this great game!


  13. I walked into John Gamble’s shop in Charlotte, NC a while back looking for a driver. He made a clean spot in my bag with a 919, and PCF Micros shortly followed. I’d had my last irons for 18 years, (pre-trimetal Orlimar Diamond TDS) and it was time for something new. 771s it was. Between your clubs, John’s help, and swinging an old weed whacker, I’m hitting the ball considerably better than I have in my 22 years of playing golf.

    The 771s are really amazing golf clubs. Wonderful feel and performance when well struck, and they outpace my old irons by a WIDE margin on off-center hits. Wouldn’t be surprised if I had these in my bag for the next 18 years.

    It was also my first time working with someone like John, and all I can say is I wish I’d done it years ago. Terrific experience, great guy.

    • BARRY

      Thanks so much for letting us know about your experience with John in Charlotte and the very positive out come of him fitting you in a set of the 771CSI irons. And of course, I am pleased you chose the 771’s because even if I do say so myself, in 27 yrs of clubhead design work, the 771’s are right at the top of my list of most fun, most satisfying designs that I have had the chance to create. But I really do get a huge amount of pleasure when I hear that a golfer hooked up with a really good, very experienced clubfitter like John Gamble because the result is almost always, always positive for the golfer. I just wish more golfers could know what you now know, that clubfitters like John really can and do make a difference to help golfers gain tangible improvement through professional fitting.


  14. I just received my 771 irons. They are the most comfortable club I have every played. I had my fitting with Golf Services Unlimited in central PA. I have been working in the golf industry for several years and my experience was an “A+” for quality and service. The 771’s give a blade feel but offer forgiveness for those miss hits. I would recommend these clubs to all skill levels of golfers. I will be golfing with Tom Wison for the rest of my golf career. Thank you Tom for building these great clubs. I also want to thank Golf Servicee Unlimited for their professional and attention to detail.

    • MATT:

      Thank you very much for taking your time to comment, and we are VERY pleased to hear that you like the 771 irons, and the fitting process as offered to you by GSU on top of that. With custom fitting and our design capability combined with a good clubmaker, we really do believe that we can offer golfers a better experience in enjoying this great game a little more. Again, THANKS SO MUCH and we’re so pleased to hear that you are happy with the clubs!!!


  15. I guess Tom had to go through a lot of experimentation to find the right metal alloy to obtain the proper feel for these superb irons.

    • Juan

      Well I would love to tell you that it took thousands of hours and countless different alloys, but the truth is, all the hard work on finding the right alloy had already been done when I designed the 775HS hybrids and 929HS fairway woods!! The high strength steel alloy used in the 771CSI irons is the same alloy we use to make the faces of the 929 and 775 heads. So from that experience with these other two models, I knew right from the start of the 771 project that I was going to use this same HS300 steel alloy for the faces.

      What took some time on the 771 iron development was perfecting the ability to cast the 1020 carbon steel for the body of the heads. Previously only the 8000 series of carbon steel alloys has lent itself to accurate and pore resistant casting. the 1000 series of carbon steels had not really been cast because they tended to leave a lot of surface pin holes when it cooled. So that took a little time to work out the details for casting the 1020 carbon steel. Once that was done then it was a pretty easy matter to mate the HS300 faces with the 1020 carbon steel body. But I will say one side effect that I hoped would happen but did not know would happen until we made the first testing prototypes was whether the softer carbon steel body could change the feel and sound of hitting the ball with this HS 300 face. The carbon steel body being much softer is able to help absorb both impact and sound vibrations coming off the back of the face so the overall impact feel of the 771’s is not softer than what it was in the old 770CFE irons with their 17-4 stainless body.

      Thanks Juan for your kind comment about the feel of the 771’s. WE’re really pleased to hear that you must like these irons!!


  16. Tom I sincerely appreciate your honest and professional replies in defense of your products whenever customers, and golf lovers have comments challenging the products you put out to us, the improved golfers of the world. Keep up your great work. I plan on getting custom fit to your products. I am finally breaking 80 consistently now, and I seek to improve on that. Thanks Tom.

    • Thanks Michael, very much appreciated here for sure! And isn’t this game fun when you get on the right track as it sounds like you are? Good to hear you’re doing well and enjoying this great game !


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  18. Talking with a clubmaker in Hazel Green, AL I really like the 771csi irons. I play to a 16-18 hcp. Would the 771s be a good choice for me

    • JOE:
      There are TWO PRIMARY REASONS that a golfer would be a good candidate for being fit into a set of the 771CSO irons. 1) if getting more distance with the irons is an important priority, and if the golfer’s previous/current set is any type of conventional forged or investment cast set of irons, then the high COR face design of the 771 will very definitely hit the ball longer for the golfer. 2) if the golfer has a more extreme LIE FITTING requirement then the carbon steel composition of the body of the 771 irons will allow the clubmaker to fit the lie angles of the 771’s to a much wider range as required by a golfer. One other thing that is nice about the 771’s is that rarely do you see a super game improvement iron that is as traditional looking in size and shape as is the 771. Most other companies’ super game improvement iron models are pretty big in size, usually very offset and not very traditional looking when you set the head down behind the ball.

      Thanks very much for your interest for sure!!

  19. I live in Malaysia and had a set of 560 MC fitted with KBS steel shaft. Love the feel and consistency. Distance is OK for my 18 hdcp level (7iron averaging 155 yards).

    Will the 777Csi be suitable for me in terms of gaining distance? I believe the lofts are slightly stronger in the 777Csi. What about feel as it is not a forged club? Is it more forgiving?

    Please keep up the good work. I don’t think I have met anyone in Malaysia or Singapore playing a Wishon yet!

    • Aeron:
      Thank you for your question and please let me say a bigger THANK YOU for having been fit in a set of the 560MC irons! I think I do agree with you completely on the performance of the 560s because I personally have been playing this model since the very first day the first sets were finished in production!! It’s interesting you ask about the 771’s because I too am thinking about switching this season myself to the 771 – I am getting older and my clubhead speed has dropped about 4mph so I am GREEDY to get back that distance and a little more!! HA! There is no question the high COR face of the 771’s will hit the ball longer per iron than the 560s which are a conventional forged iron with a normal COR face. The 560’s do have very good off center hit forgiveness, but the variable thickness face of the 771’s is just a little bit better for off center hit ball speed and distance. So as an 18 hdcp and with your higher than average swing speed (155yds for a 560-7 iron is very good clubhead speed) you would gain some distance for sure with the 771’s – probably hit the 771-7 iron around 162 to maybe 165 yds.

      We do have a few clubmakers in the Malaysia and Singapore area who fit with our designs, but not a lot. So let me ask you a small favor, if you do not mind. Our designs have just begun to get distributed in your area by a company called GOLF SHAFTS ASIA. But so far, they have not done all that much business with us because they seem to be used to distributing a line of component designs for clubmakers that comes from Japan. So may I ask you to send an email to the owner of GOLF SHAFTS ASIA to tell him how good our designs are (!!) and to urge him to work harder to distribute our designs to the clubmakers in Southeast Asia !!!! His name is Tony Huxtable and his email address is tony@golfshaftsasia.com . THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT !!!!! and the very best wishes to you in this great game!


  20. I can echo Tom’s remarks on forgiveness. I usually curse low volume when I mishit my irons because i’m use to them coming up 10 yards short of the green. With the 771’s they have been landing on the green. I’m still at a stage where my brain can’t understand hitting the ball on the toe and still getting to putt. Still to this day it surprises me how far they go on mishits…

    • I can’t tell you how much fun it is for me to listen to you talk about KNOWING you hit a shot toward the toe but still seeing the ball get to the green! I still remember so clearly my own reaction the very first time I designed an iron with a variable thickness face and had the same experience. I just chuckled and sort of felt like I was “cheating” based on all my previous experience hitting shots off the toe and having to accept the fact they were going to fall short, sometimes in some sort of real trouble!

      Thanks so much for your comment !!!!!


  21. Contacted Tony at GolfshaftsAsia. Cannot wait to receive the 777CSI soon.
    Thanks for all the comments on this page which makes my decision to get the 777CSI so easy.

    • Aeron: where did you get the 771? How much does it codt you

    • Fauzan
      Our designs are available only through independent custom clubmakers found all over the USA and in several international countries. We believe so strongly in the benefits of professional custom fitting so we choose to only work with screened custom clubmakers who will meet with the golfer, perform an extensive fitting analysis, determine the best fitting specs for the clubs for each golfer, then custom build the clubs accurately for each golfer. To find a custom clubmaker in your area that you can contact to arrange a fitting appointment, please take a moment to go to the FIND A CLUBFITTER locator, found right in the center of the home page of wishongolf.com – or here is the direct link to the FIND A CLUBFITTER locator – http://wishongolf.com/find-a-clubfitter/

      Thank you very much,

  22. Tom. Long time admirer of your knowledge. I am a lefty looking for a set of game improvement irons. Are the 771CSI’s still set for April 2014 release? They look like the perfect blend of forgiveness and classic looks. I live in Winnipeg Canada and have previously been fit by Jacques Lavack into a 919THI driver that is the best club in my bag.

    • Russ
      Yes, we are still looking at an early April completion date for the LH version of the 771CSI irons. And we’ll hope it stays that way!

  23. I switched to left handed one year ago with good results. I have a set of Toski FMT irons from about 8 years ago that I originally bought just to “experiment on the range” with some lefty irons. Purchased a set of LH Ping G25’s (CFS steel-Black Dot) last spring and had reasonable success with those, but after attending golf school out in Vegas, correcting my swing, I seem to be gravitating back to the Toskis. I think my adjusted swing tends to favor the lighter weight heads and graphite shaft?!? Could this all be in my head or is there something to it? Also, seems like the 771’s resemble the Toski FMT’s?!? What do you think?

    • LARRY
      Our clubs cannot be bought in any pre built, standard form as are all other models of clubs from the bigger companies. Our designs are only custom fit for golfers by independent custom clubmakers around the country and in other countries too. So that means whatever works good for you in the Toski irons in terms of the lengths, lies, shafts, weighting, grips, etc can be analyzed by the clubfitter and then duplicated in the custom assembly of the 771’s. But the performance of the 771 head is going to be very different than the 8 yr old Toskis because the 771 is a high COR face iron. So the distance will be more and from the thin face, the shot trajectory will be a little higher. But who complains about more distance,eh?!

      Thank you very much!

  24. Hi Tom, I currently play a set of 770 CFE’s that I love, shafted with TT GS75 steel shafts, they are the best set I’ve ever played. My backup set is another one of your designs, the original Snake Eyes Fire Forged irons, beautiful heads! Can you compare and contrast the differences between the 770 and 771? Where would I notice the biggest improvement or difference in my game, and the feel of the club overall? Thanks! Dave.

    • DAVID

      Thanks very much for your message and that’s great to hear that no only have the 770s played very well for you, but that your backup set is the very first thin face, higher COR iron that I had the chance to design back in 2000.

      The 771’s are only going to be about 1/4 to 1/2 club longer per iron than the 770s which comes from the different high strength steel alloy that we use with the 771’s, which allowed us to make the face a little thinner, so the COR is as close to the 0.830 limit as is possible without going over. The 770s came close but were just slightly under the COR limit. I think also you might notice a little difference in the impact sound – with the 771’s being made with a soft carbon steel body, vibrations off the back of the face are slightly muted by the softer carbon steel than were those of the 770s with the 17-4 harder steel body. And also, if your lie fitting needs required something more than a degree or so from the design lie of the heads, the 771’s being made from a carbon steel body would allow a much greater range in lie bending than could the 770s. Add to that the fact the sole of the 771’s is more rounded from face to back, that can be a little help either if you play in the south on Bermuda type grasses or if you ever tend to get a slight bit steep into the ball.

      Thanks again!!

  25. Hello Tom,
    I have been in contact with Richard Kempton in Kent U.K with regards to purchasing a set of irons LEFT HANDED and have ben informed that the 771s will be available in April of this year. Can you give me any idea of when they will now become available. Having researched your website on many occasions, I have gleaned a huge amount of information about the fitting of clubs which has helped when talking to Richard Kempton. If the 771s are going to be delayed in production can you recommend another of your iron sets that would suite me.I am 66 years old with 4 iron swing speed of 80mph playing off a handicap of 10 and with main goal in life now to play in single figures. Any comment would be useful.

    Thanking you in Anticipation of reply


    • PAT:

      Thanks so much for your message and for letting us know that you are going to be working with Richard for your fitting needs. You’ve picked THE VERY BEST clubfitter on the planet, and I am not joking around or embellishing things when I tell you that. Plus he is a super nice guy so you are about to experience one of the most fun days in your life as a golfer! Our latest news from the production factory is that the left hand 771’s are going to ship on April 11 so that should put them here in our company by April 15-16. From there it would be over the pond to Richard’s shop, so if everything stays on schedule as reported to us, it should be possible to get the 771’s to Richard by April 20 or so.

      Thanks so much for your interest and the very best to you in this great game

  26. Hi Tom –

    I got into golf several years ago, and was playing with some off-the-rack Callaways. For my birthday this year my wife sent me to Michael Clark in Berkeley to get fit for new clubs. I ended up with your club heads on most of the set (919 driver, PCF micro tour wedges, and 771 irons). It took a couple rounds to get used to the new clubs, but by my third round with them I shot the best score I ever have (I am usually in the low to mid 90’s, and I got an 86)!

    I was expecting to lose a little distance because I switched from graphite to steel, but with the 771’s I go just as far (maybe even a little bit further). I guess this is probably due to the high COR? My mis-hits also stay inline more than they used to. I actually had to use impact tape at the range because I couldn’t believe that shots with such a nice shape were not hit right on center!

    The wedges are amazing as well. I don’t know what it is about them, but I have been able to get more spin than ever. Being able to confidently stop a ball right where it lands probably saved me 3 or 4 strokes in my last round.

    I want to thank you for making such beautiful equipment (honestly, I think that the 771’s could go in a museum, they are a work of art), and also for being such a champion for custom fit clubs. You are doing a great service for the game of golf.


    • MIKE
      Thanks so much for your comments and wow, what nice news to hear about your experience with the new sticks!! Also, your wife was totally on top of things to set you up with Michael Clark. I’ve known Michael in the clubmaking industry for at least 20+ yrs from all sorts of technical seminars and clubmaking conventions that I have spoken and taught at over the years. And from all my communication and correspondence with him over the years, he’s really one of the best – and not only that but he has always genuinely cared about doing the very best for the golfers who put their equipment trust in him.

      In fact, last year when the man who lives across the street from my Mother in Nor Cal asked her one day who her son might recommend he go get custom fit with, I got him set up with Michael and he too loves the work that Michael did for him. So you know I am careful in recommending Michael since I would not want my Mom’s neighbor not being happy with the clubs!! Seriously though, thanks so much for taking the time to share your experiences with us, we really do appreciate that and we are so pleased to hear you like the clubs and are enjoying the game a little more in the process!


  27. Fauzan,

    (http://www.golfshaftsasia.com/) Please contact Tony at golfshaftsasia. They are based in Ipoh but have contact with clubfitters in major cities. I live in Johor Bahru.

  28. Hello there,

    Just got myself custom-fitted today after several years of playing the game. Tried the 771 at the recommendation of the clubfitter here in Johor, Malaysia. Fell in love as soon as I first touch it and I can actually say that it certainly felt different from the Wilson D11 irons that I have. Can’t wait to receive my new iron sets as well as the PCF Micro Tour 56 wedge next Tuesday together with the Aerotech Steelfiber i80 shafts. Wish me luck!!

  29. I was just looking at the specs on the 771s and noticed the weight progression pretty much stops after the 9 iron. Can you talk about that and why you would not push the PW and AW head weights up so they flowed more naturally into the SW? Pushing these up to the higher 280s and low 290s respectively would seem to make sense. Just curious the thinking behind this weighting decision..

    • Gary

      Yes, happy to explain that. I have set up the headweights on virtually all iron sets so the 9 and PW were the same at 281 or 282, and then the AW was set up to be 284 or 285, depending on the set design. The reason I do this is because the industry really has no standards anymore for what the length of a PW or AW is to be. Most do agree that “standard length” for men’s irons dictate that the 9 iron would be 36″ (half inch increments starting from the 3 iron at 39″). But there really had not been any such continuing standard for the PW or AW. Some golfers want the PW to be 35 1/2 with the AW at 35, some want the PW to be the same as the #9 with the AW either -1/2″ from that or -1/4″ from that. Others get into different increments of length change too from the 9 to the PW and AW. So it is all over the place for lengths.

      Then you have the matter of swingweight. Some golfers want the swingweight of the PW and AW to be the same as the other numbered irons. Others want the swingweight of the PW and AW to be slightly higher in swingweight than the swingweight of the numbered irons. This is somewhat of a slight trend in fitting to make the wedge swingweights to be +1 or +2 points higher than the 9 for the reason that the PW and AW are used far more than the 9 for less than full swing shots where having a little more headweight feel helps with timing.

      So in setting up my PW and AW headweights, I arrived on these weights because with the weight bore factored in with them, these headweights covered more of the possible lengths and swingweight options that golfers might use in their wedges. Of course when designing iron and wedge heads, I realize that I cannot come up with a headweight that can cover 100% of all possible, imaginable differences all golfers might want for their PW/AW lengths and swingweights. But since I have been doing these PW/AW headweight specs on my iron designs now for some 15 yrs, these headweights along with the fact all my heads have a hosel weight bore that can accept up to 9g has proven to work for most length and swt situations that a clubmaker might encounter.


  30. Tom,

    I have built several sets of 870ti, 771csi and now a couple sets of 755pc irons for my customers, and each of them is a fantastic iron design. I personally replaced a set of Mizuno JPX825 Pro irons with your 771csi model, and I absolutely LOVE them! I am hitting them as long, or longer, than ANY iron I have ever hit (a set of Ping G25s comes pretty close) … and I hit the 771csi more accurately, too. In addition, the amount of adjustability that is offered by the 771csi is absolutely unmatched in any other iron model!

    The three models that I have mentioned above (870ti, 755pc, and these 771csi irons) have become the mainstay of my fitting cart. So much so, in fact, that I have removed several other iron models from my fitting cart, to where I only have a couple of non-TWGT iron models available.

    Keep up the great work, Tom! I am firmly convinced that no other golf component company offers the level of design and performance-enhancing innovation that is offered by Tom Wishon Golf Technology!

    By the way, my 775 hybrid (18* loft with an S2S Red S-flex shaft) is a real beast, too! I have reached a few previously-unreachable par-5s in two shots when using this club for my second shot.

    Doug Mael

    • Doug

      Wow, that’s great to hear and believe us, that means a lot coming from you with your depth of experience in clubmaking and clubfitting! Thanks so much for taking the time to offer your comments here. That really makes us all feel really good (and good comments help to get Google to like us more so more golfers can possibly see us and then go work with a good clubmaker like you!!!) At times I can’t believe I have been doing this work in design and technical research as long as I have – boy the years go by fast – but I sill enjoy doing the design work to keep trying to create good models so that when good clubmakers like you do your work to determine the best fitting specs for the golfers, the combination of my designs with proper fitting makes the best clubs a golfer can play!!!


  31. I have been a Steelfiber advocate for almost years. Mine have been in a set of Lynx irons and then moved to 560s. Over the last few months I just ran into a wall with my scores in the low to mid 80s. I occasionally would get a high 70 but I was stuck. I ordered a 771 and S2S Black shaft for a test club. I was amazed at the reduction in my shot dispersion based upon work on a launch monitor. I also picked up a little over 8 yards average. I decided to order a 6-AW set of 771 with two 775 hybrids. In the last week I have shot a 73 (par 71), 80 (par 72) and 78 (par 72). The last two are on one of the hardest courses in the area with a +2 handicap rating. These clubs are longer but most importantly their shot dispersion gives you the confidence to go for those narrow elevated greens with trouble on both sides. Highly recommend the 771 and the S2S shafts. A real great combination. The 775s are a great companion for those lower lofted irons most of us can’t hit. Same confidence levels.

    Tom, thanks for all your help and assistance. My friends are definitely noticing the difference in my ball positions.

    • GARY

      Thanks so much for sharing your experiences with us and others here!! WE’re so pleased to hear that the clubs you built are working well for you and from that, bringing you a little more enjoyment in this great game !!!


  32. I have two rounds on my 771 built for me by Gene at ADS Golf in San Marcos, CA. Gene took a lot of time to not only fit me properly but also explain the process and educate me on why the clubs I was playing were not right for me. In any event, I am very impressed with the feel, distance, forgivenss and look of the 771s. I’ve lost nothing in terms of distance and gained a lot in terms of feel and accuracy. The A wedge is absolute money for me from 100 yds in. Highly recommend these irons and the custom fitting process at ADS golf.

    • MIKE
      GREAT To hear that the 771’s are performing well for you, thanks very much for taking your time to come to our website to share your experiences. You did do right by working with Gene because he is very good and he really does care about doing his best in his fitting work.

      Thanks much !!


  33. Ok, the honeymoon is over with these clubs and they are still fabulous! I never thought I would put the 560MC irons in the backup bag, but the 771 irons are money. The turf interaction and forgiveness are outstanding. Pretty sure I didn’t develop a better swing in the past two months, but the shots I have hit with these are leaving me with a lot more birdie putts or a chip from around the green. You have to try these, sure not as smooth as a forged club, but if you want forgiveness and a little more distance, give these a shot.

    Mr. Wishon – how will you ever improve on these outstanding irons?

    • Byron
      It is truly nice to hear that the “relationship” is still strong with the 771 irons and thank you very much for taking the time to let us know!!

      There is one more direction I can go with an iron design that I do believe could take overall iron performance to a new level that would be a notch above the 771’s, but a noticeable improvement. Problem is, the materials required to do this along with the method of production would mean that this next ultimate set of irons would be a good notch more expensive than any iron ever made. So that’s my dilemma – no new design can see the light of day unless it can have a market that would be willing to purchase it. So I will hope this can happen because I really would love to tackle this project.

      Thanks so much!

  34. Hi Tom
    I don’t know of any clubfitters in Christchurch, New Zealand but was wondering what you think of the online fitting forms companies use? I’m looking at purchasing some 771’s from The Golf Shed (Shane Springer)and know that a personal fitting would be best but can’t justify the airfare to do this. I’m 6’4″ and have a fast strong swing and hit the ball a long way, any comments would be greatly appreciated

  35. I am not one to typically comment on a product or service but I felt so strongly about my recent experience that I feel compelled to do so. I will also apologize in advance for the length of this but in this case I believe more is better.
    I have owned golf clubs for the better part of 23 years which doesn’t translate into playing golf. During much of those years my playing consisted of 2-3 rounds a year with at least one a best-ball outing. I had played major OEM clubs for about 20 of those years, never being properly fitted, just making the necessary compensations to make it work.
    Over the last 3 years I began to have more time and wanted to become more serious about my game so I upgraded to a players’ blade. I was “fitted” on some very generic measurements, took some swings on a launch monitor and off I was with my new toys. My logic was that I felt I was striking the ball better and if I played a set of clubs that were not as forgiving, it would force me to play better.
    I am admittedly like many of the millions of golfers that become hypnotized by the marketing gimmicks of the major OEM’s, the belief that I can play like the pros if I have the same equipment and that newer technology will be the magic pill I am looking for to cure all of my issues. I was more concerned in how I looked and what others thought of the equipment I had in the bag rather than how I was able to perform with it.
    I recently struggled so bad that the game was no longer enjoyable. It truly felt like I had never played before and it was the first time I picked up a club. That was when I decided to take action. Still stuck in my brand recognition mode, I started my search based on shafts, found their list of authorized dealers, narrowed it down by reasonable driving distance and ended up with a short list of options.
    On my short list of club fitters / club builders was Perfect Lies Golf, in Tomkins Cove, NY. Fred was the first call I made and we spoke for the better part of 2-2 ½ hours as he tried to get a better understanding of what I wanted to gain out of my golf game. At the conclusion of the call, I received a fitting form to complete – 7 pages to get a better picture which I promptly completed and returned which led to another 40 emails over the course of the week and a request for some swing video, which I provided 52 swings at the driving range with every club in my bag. I wanted to make sure he had plenty of information to make the best possible suggestions.
    I felt an instant connection with Fred because he spoke to me like a friend would (brutally honest) and it never felt like a sales call. Here are the three (3) things that he said that really sold me:
    1. I will walk away from a sale before I sell you something I know isn’t good for you, your swing, your game or your ability.
    2. Be open minded about the equipment and let the clubs (head & shaft) find you.
    3. I can give you what you want, but it isn’t going to help your game.
    That second statement was the hardest to come to terms with but I knew it was the most important. During our talks (e-mail & phone) Fred indicated that I would benefit from a GI iron. The stigma of a GI iron was a negative for me. Remember my ego was at stake. In my mind my game was more advanced and a switch to a Game Improvement iron was insulting. With that said, I slept on it, arranged a date and whatever happened next I would accept.
    The day was finally here and I truly felt like a kid on Christmas Day. We would spend the next 6 hours (including a lunch break) and 500 balls testing about 20 different heads and a multitude of shaft options to find that magical combination to make me say “WOW!”
    Based on all of the data I provided and past successes he has had fitting others, Fred thought the Wishon 560MC would work best for me. As it turns out, the 771CSI was the iron that found me paired with an 80g graphite shaft in a 5.2 flex – numbers I would have fought in the past! The combination was unbelievable. The best part is that it didn’t look like a traditional GI iron. It wasn’t as chunky at the sole and the top line was much thinner than I expected which made it extremely pleasing to the eye at address.
    We went through the entire bag and after 10 swings with the driver (Wishon 919) I would go back to the 6 iron and flush one perfectly. I did this after each additional club (fairway wood – Wishon 925 and 3 & 4 hybrid Wishon 775) and the results were the same – long and straight. The clubs were fantastic. The 919 driver was longer on the first swing than I have hit in the last three (3) years. I proceeded to replicate the results with the next 9 swings. I was consistently out driving my previous best and the dispersion was tighter than I thought I was capable of. Even my misses were consistent. I was sold.
    I ended up buying Wishon Golf for my entire bag:
    • 771CSI irons
    • 919 Driver
    • 925 3-wood
    • PCF Micro Tour Wedges
    The quality and workmanship was evident in the way the clubs performed. I am truly a Wishon convert and will probably never buy OEM equipment ever again – nor will I do so without speaking with Fred @ Perfect Lies Golf first. This combination of great components and experienced fitter was exactly what I was hoping to achieve from being properly fitted.
    In closing, Fred @ Perfect Lies Golf was perfect for me because he was forthright and spoke honestly from knowledge and experience and didn’t tell me what my ego wanted to hear. He didn’t push a particular brand, nor did he ever tell me what I was swinging – only asked for my opinion after each slight adjustment.
    I believe that I made the best selection based on performance and not on brand and after doing some extensive research on what I bought – believe I bought the best brand as well.
    Thank you for enduring my story but felt it was the best way to convey my experience and hopefully help other in the process.
    Jeff from New Jersey

  36. I don’t typically review products or leave comments on websites, but this has made such an impact I needed to break form. I recently deconstructed my bag and converted to Wishon Golf for most of my bag – 771 CSI irons (5-PW, AW), 919 driver, 925 HL 3-wood, PCF 56* wedge and all I can say is Wow! I would have had no real knowledge of these clubs if it wasn’t for Fred @ Perfect Lies Golf. He took the time to understand what I could swing and paired it with the perfect shaft combination for me and in my 9-hole league saw instant results – an instant 14 shot improvement(57 the previous time versus a 43 this time) – with a few misses that could have carded a 39. These clubs clearly deliver and provide the confidence I was lacking in my old Mizuno clubs. Fred took the dime to analyze my swing, recognize my tendencies and thought the 560MC’s would be what worked but I feel in love with the 771’s. The top line was thinner than most GI clubs and the sole wasn’t anywhere close to being “chunky” – and the results speak for themselves.

    Thank you Tom for providing such a top notch component and thank you Perfect Lies (Fred) for knowing what club head & shaft combination fit my swing! I will never buy or swing OEM clubs ever again! I could go on and on about both but I think you get the idea. I stopped worrying how the brand name of my equipment and realized it was all about how I played my equipment. I can’t wait to play again. The game is fun again.

    Thanks! Jeff M

    • Jeff

      Many thanks for “breaking form” to offer your comments. Wee’re very pleased to hear that you worked with Fred because he most certainly is one of the most thorough and most fastidious clubfitters not only that we have working with us, but he’s at the top in those categories of service and care of any clubmakers I have known in the 30+ yrs I have been working in this side of the industry. Hands down. A golfer really can’t get a better fitting experience anywhere. If there were a 1000 more like Fred in the country, professional clubfitting would rule the golf equipment universe!!!

      Thanks SO MUCH for sharing this and it really made our day to be able to hear your comments !!!!


  37. I am concerned that high cOR faces may have hot spots with distance inconsistencies like the rbz and speedblade irons. Is that a potential issue Tom with the 771s? I currently have a set of 560mc and 555m and was thinking of getting the 771s. Thanks for the awesome products, also love th pcf micro wedges.

    • Eric

      As a custom design company working with custom clubmakers, we tend to hear a ton of comments back about all of our head and shaft designs. In all honesty, with any of the three high COR iron designs we have created going back to 2004 with the first one, I can;t say that I recall any comments coming back to us to the effect that any of our high COR designs exhibited hot spots on shots or rather, sudden out of nowhere distance increases. I think that the reason for this is because all three of our high COR designs have also incorporated a variable thickness face design with the thin high strength alloy material. what that does is broaden the high COR area of the face so when you hit the shot 1/2″ off center you really don’t see a distance drop and when hits are 3/4″ to 1″ off center, the distance loss is pretty darn small. With uniform thickness face high COR face designs, once you miss the center of the face, you drop off pretty fast in ball speed and distance. So if you were hitting shots 1/4″ off center and thinking things were ok, but then caught one dead center, you would see that dead center shot fly meaurably farther. Best thing I can suggest is to have ONE of the 771 irons fit to your specs, play with it for 3-4 weeks over 5-6 different play or ball striking sessions and see for yourself before you consider pulling the trigger on a set.

      Thanks much for your interest!


  38. I recently made the switch from a major OEM (Mizuno) to the Wishon 771 CSI irons and it’s been pure bliss. TC @ Perfect Lies Golf did a fantastic job of providing me with the perfect head / shaft combination that would work with my swing. I admittedly wanted to get the 560MC after seeing them, but the 771’s just performed so much better for me. Golf was an ego game for me and the thought of a GI iron was challenging to accept, but the aesthetics of this iron were so pleasing that it didn’t look like a traditional GI iron and it flat out performs. Thank you both Perfect Lies Golf for opening my eyes to how much fun this game can be with the right equipment and thank you TWGT for making such an outstanding product. It goes to show that great equipment exists beyond the OEM machine.
    I have become an advocate for Perfect Lies Golf for fitting and Wishon Golf for equipment – a perfect combination in the Greater NYC area.

    Thank you!

    • Jeff

      How nice is that to hear – what a cool way for me to end the day today to head home for a cool one, maybe 5-6 holes and think good thoughts thanks to your kind comments!! And you really, REALLY did the right thing in working with Fred at Perfect Lies. He’s way at the top of the top for clubmaker service, knowledge and a passion to do the best for the golfers he has the chance to work with.

      Thanks much !!!!

  39. Tom,

    I think I have made one of the best decision in selecting Gary Pickle for my custom fitting and his recommending to me the correct set of golf clubs ever, based on my swing characteristics. These are some of the best feeling clubs I think I have ever swung and hit and I have hit many over the more than 30 years of playing golf. I have played almost every OEM club on the market, but have played your club designs for the last several years but was never custom fitted with the MOI specs.

    I just picked up my new set of custom fitted 771 irons and 775 hybrids yesterday, and can’t wait to take them out to the course. Both heads are fitted with the S2S White Reg. shaft and wow this combination is awesome……….This is an upgrade from my 770’s and my 785’s which you have now retired. I also play the 919THI drivers and fairway woods, along with the 915 hybrid/fairways, and have one of the original 919THI Blue drivers which can’t be beat and I will not depart from it…ha.

    I will say this about Gary, my club fitter; he is very detailed and well-schooled in what he knows and how he goes about his professional club fitting procedures. I would highly recommend him to anyone and they will be more than satisfied with the finished product and results. He is not a high pressure sales person; he is low keyed and wants a customer to be satisfied with the fittings and finished products.

    Also, thanks for your major contribution to the excellent designs in the custom golf club components field. The many years of service and knowledgeable attention you have provided to the golf industry, has really produced the very high quality products that are second to none, including the OEM’s and other golf club manufacturers.


    • JIM

      I tend to agree with you when you said you made a good decision to work with Gary. Did he also share any of his latest jokes with you?? He has a ton and most are really funny and entertaining! But that aside (which I just mentioned because Gary is a great combination of clubfitter with a great personality), it really is nice to hear that you like the sticks and you’re excited about the enjoyment they will bring to you in this great game. Thanks so much for your kind words and for your support – my arms sometimes get really tired continually swimming upstream against the current of the mainstream golf equipment business but I do it because what we and clubfitters like Gary do is right, and it is better for golfers, and I’ll keep doing what I can to educate golfers about this until I can’t work anymore. Thanks for your comment for sure, it was like a massage for my tired arms !!! HA!


  40. i tried 770 before. i dont like the sound of impact. of course, its excellent in distance.
    for 771, i am still interested in it. but i want to know more about the sound of impact. is it same as 770 or similar to normal iron ?
    thanks a lot !

    • Manho
      The impact sound of the high COR model 771CSI iron is different than the impact sound of the old 770CFE high COR iron. The reason is because the body of the 771CSI is made from soft carbon steel. With the older 770 iron, the body was made from much harder 17-4 stainless steel. So the impact vibrations from the face of the 771 in the soft carbon steel body is more muted than it was for the 770 CFE irons. While this is still a high COR face iron which does make it FEEL a little different than any of the thick face, low COR irons on the market, our clubmakers tell us that people like you who did not like the sound with the 770 do now think that the impact sound of the 771 is much better.


    • My current iron set is NIKE VRII Pro (Blade) with Dynamic Gold X-100 shaft. My 7 iron (35*) distance is around 165 yards (roll to 170 yards).

      I want to get more distance with easy swing & more forgiveness to improve my own game.

      Do you think 771CSI is good for me ?

      Many thanks


    • Manho
      First let me say that 165 in Hong Kong’s sea level elevation is a VERY GOOD distance with a 35* loft #7 iron that is a blade style design. Based on this distance you would have to be in the upper 25% of all golfers in the world for distance. But I would say that the 771CSI with its high COR face design (blades all have a conventional low COR face) and with the fact that the 771CSI #7 iron has a std loft of 34*, you would hit the 771 longer than you hit your current VRII blades – probably about 10-12 yds longer.

      Thanks much,

  41. Tom,

    I have enjoyed reading the blogs about 771’s. I too have a set of 560’s that I truly enjoy. I am a 6 hcp and seem to be able to work these clubs very well. I had decided the “forged” feel was to be an important aspect for my set. I have been considering the 575’s for this reason but have not hit the 771 at all either (or the 575). I see that the 771’s are made of carbon steel and I have read so many positive posts. First of all, did you switch off of your 560’s? When I play with my clubs, many of my friends are quite impressed with the distance and control I have with my 560’s. I have not had them altered at all, same as off the shelf loft and lie and they really are very strong from a distance and control perspective.

    I am on the fence of whether to change to another iron so might you offer any additional playability or performance comments about the 771 and/or 575? Many thanks.


    • Richard
      I still play the very first of the final pre production sets of the 560s from back when I designed them. But yes, I have been thinking about making the switch to the 771’s, but in all honesty, chiefly because I know the day will come soon when I start to lose clubhead speed and from that, start to get anxious about having to hit one more club from the same distance!!! So you see, even someone like me with 28 yrs in clubhead design can be “lured” by the concept of more distance with the same loft !!!! BUt as it stands, in our rarefied air of 6500 feet elevation, a 560MC #7 iron is still 170yds so I am happy with that. Now if I go on a trip and play golf at sea level. . . . hmmmm.

      Best thing I can advise is to get ONE of the 771 irons, fit and built with the same shaft and fitting specs as you use in your 560s, and take your time to just play with it for a few weeks. Or same thing with one of the 575 forged irons. That way you can get a much better sense of what you want or need to do.


  42. Tom,

    A couple months ago you and I had a conversation on the forum of another golf site. You answered a few of my questions about club fitting and recommended a fitter in my area, Kyle Chauvin. I can’t thank you enough for that. Kyle is an awesome guy and an amazing instructor. Aside from just fitting me with the right clubs and specs, he took the time to help me develop a solid golf swing, breaking many of my old habits.

    Kyle made a set of 771’s for me, and OH MY! What a great set of irons! The best I’ve ever hit by a landslide.

    I am looking forward to a tumbling handicap and a load of fun on the course.

    Thanks, Tom!


    • Trey

      So glad to hear that you are pleased with your fitting experience with Kyle and that the results with the fitting in terms of the 771 irons worked out so well to your satisfaction! Thanks so much for taking the time to come to our site and share your experience with us !!!


  43. Tom,

    These are the best clubs that I have ever played. ( did the Ping, Wilson, and Mizuno thing)
    I hope that you stop manufacturing these clubs so that I can continue to kick my buddies asses.
    Well Done Tom!!

    • Roland

      Thanks very much for your post !! It’s great to hear that you now have an edge on your competition!!!

      May that last for a good while for you too !

  44. Tom,
    I’ve been reviewing the release data for the new irons from 3 of the big name companies. I’ve played game improvement irons from Ping, Nike, and Mizuno and am reasonably satisfied with my current JPX EZ irons; however, I am always looking each year for “new technology” that may help me a little more. Simultaneously, I observed a Wishon Poster at one of the local driving ranges which helped me to recall your 771csi Hot List Iron in the Golf Digest 2014 March Issue. I went to your website and have spent a great deal of enjoyable time reviewing your videos and information which I found to be more informative than any other website I have reviewed and there have been many.

    I utilized your club fitter locator and identified Tom Miller at Par Golf in the Raleigh, NC area. It was a pleasant surprise when I realized that Tom was a member of the same Senior Golf League that I am, and although we have never been paired to play together, we were not total strangers to each other. I scheduled a meeting to demo the 870ti and 771csi irons and liked the 771 the best, but in all candor, I didn’t think it performed any better than my JPX EZ so I was a little disappointed and not overly impressed. Tom took some measurements and of course watched my swing and asked if I would be okay with him building a more custom shafted 7 iron that he thought would better match my swing. I gave him the okay and left and didn’t think much more about it.

    About a week later, Tom surprised me at one of our tournaments with a 2* upright + .75 in Wishon S2S White Shaft 7 Iron with the same grip I was using on my JPX EZ irons which he had observed. It looked and felt great but I did not play with it that day. The next morning I went to the driving range and was simply blown away by the performance of this iron. I hit about 20 balls and about 15 were pure center hits that felt soft but hot off the face. The mishits provided noticeable feedback through my hands but were not nearly as harsh feeling as with the other irons I have played. There was some loss of distance with mishits but no more than my other irons. I have never squared the club face at impact as well as I did with the 771. The overall balance of the club was the best I have ever felt. I went directly crosstown to meet with Tom. I hit some more balls and was still so impressed with the performance that I placed an order without hesitation with Tom that day for 5-AW 771 irons. I also ordered a 56* Micro Tour Wedge which Tom recommended. Tom took some more measurements and called me later that Tuesday afternoon to let me know he had ordered the components and would have my irons built by the following Monday and we could finalize the fitting adjustments on Tuesday.

    I met with Tom as scheduled and he had assembled the clubs to what he believed were my ideal specifications. He had me hit each iron off of a mat with face tape and then with lie tape using new range balls. He made some minor adjustments mostly to loft and then I hit balls off of the turf. He made sure I was satisfied with the feel and performance of each club before we moved on to the next one. This was the fourth fitting I have had for irons and was by far the best. Tom exceeded my expectations which were high.

    I love the balanced feel of these irons and the look of the club head at address. I’ve described it to some of my friends as having the look of a Porsche with the quality and reliability of an Acura. I was a little concerned about how forgiving a club head could be that did not look kind of clunky like most of the GI heads; however, the 771’s are very forgiving. Distance wise they are similar to my JPX EZ (lofts adjusted to be the same) but the consistency of distance for both center hit and mishit balls for the 771 is superior to any iron I have played. I particularly like the turf/sole interaction of the 771’s compared to the larger width soles GI irons typically have. This is especially true for the more lofted scoring irons. I’ve played 5 rounds and have not chunked a single pitch or chip shot which is atypical for me. In my last round today I shot a 79 compared to my 16 handicap.

    Also, I have never played a 56* wedge that is as easy to hit as your Micro Tour Wedge. It sometimes feels like it is peeling the cover off of the ball. In my second round, I hit a 30 yard bunker shot within 1 inch of the hole. It was the best shot out of the sand I have ever hit.
    Thanks for providing quality products and a great website explaining the many options you have available.


    • TRIP:

      Many thanks for taking the time to stop by and share so much of your experiences from the fitting for the new 771 irons. It’s truly a pleasure for me to be able to have the opportunity to hear how well the 771 are performing for you. That’s great to hear that you worked with Tom for your fitting needs – he’s very good and has a great track record of fitting success for the golfers that he has worked with – and to think that you knew him but weren’t aware of his knowledge and skills is pretty amazing too! Thanks again for your support and the very best wishes to you in this great game!


  45. I’m getting very interested in these clubs reading all the comments here on this forum. I have 3 questions:

    1) Is there any downside/tradeoff with the max COR clubface?
    2) If not, why do pros not use high COR irons? Or do they?
    3) This might be considered sacrilege, but I like the new dark finishes available on some clubs. Would adding a PVD finish to these clubs: a) Stick; b) Change their feel or performance in any way?

    • Malcolm
      To answer your questions. . . .
      1. There really is no “downside” in using a high COR face design on a driver, fairway wood as they simply are there to increase the ball speed in relation to the golfer’s clubhead speed to offer more distance. Slices and hooks can still happen when the golfer delivers the clubface in such a manner. The only possible “downside” when using a high COR face iron is that at higher clubhead speeds such as a 5 iron speed over 75-80mph is that the ball can take off with less backspin due to the increased flexing of the face. But this generally is not a bad thing because the increased face flexing also brings about a little higher launch angle with it, so the angle of the ball coming down to the ground is steeper to stop the ball when there is a little less backspin to do the same thing. And with the high COR hybrid, it is possible also at higher clubhead speeds AND With a late release, that the distance increase from the high COR hybrid can be such that it leaves a bigger distance gap between it and the conventional iron that may follow the hybrid in the set makeup. But in such cases, using MORE loft on the high COR hybrid brings this distance gap back down to a more conventional amount.

      2. Some pros are starting to use high COR irons. This has begun to show up in the past two years once in a while. BUt there is no question the vast majority of pros do not use high COR irons and won’t do that because, a) with their 90mph and higher iron speeds, they know that they do not need that extra distance, and b) some pros with high speeds feel that the high COR irons can be more difficult to get totally consistent distance control on the shot. The pros want to know that EVERY time they make a good swing with each iron, the ball is going the SAME exact distance.

      3. Using a dark chemically impregnated finish on a head does not change the performance in any way that I have seen in any of my testing. It is true that some of these finishes will wear out sooner than others and get lighter in color over many shots and use. This is because some of these finishes are less deeply impregnated into the metal of the head, while others penetrate more deeply.


  46. Thanks, Tom. Your responsiveness to questions about your products is unparalleled and much appreciated. My 771 irons are on order via Gene Bonk along with the 919 driver, 775 hybrids and the PFC Miro WS wedge. Can’t wait to take them out.

    • Thanks very much Malcolm! I am pleased to hear from your emails that you had a good time meeting and working with Gene. He really is a good man and a complete credit to the clubfitting profession. I’ll respond regarding your emails as soon as I can.


  47. Tom, I was just fitted for your 771csi irons by Tom Spargo of Spargo golf in Rhode Island.
    First Tom is a great guy and an expert at his craft of club fitting. I was fitted with Steelfiber
    110 regular shafts. All I can say is WOW! These are great irons. Just got back from a trip to Fla. And broke 80 all 4 rounds. That has not happened in a very long time.
    I have tried every OEM iron available and have struggled a lot with my iron play. Your
    771csi irons are the best I have ever played. Turf interaction is superb and the feel
    Is phenomenal. What a joy to play these clubs.
    Thanks to you for developing these irons and Tom Spargo for fitting me to your Wishon 771’s. I would encourage
    All to give these irons a try. You won’t be disappointed. Going to get fit for your wedges, obviously going back to Tom Spargo for that. Do you have any recommendations for wedges
    That might mirror the fell and control of the 771’s. Thanks again, Mike

    • MIKE:

      Thanks so much for taking your time to offer your comments from your experience with Tom. You definitely did the right thing in choosing to work with him because Tom is not only one of the better and more experienced clubfitters in the country, but he is also one of the nicest guys who does really care about the golfers who make the commitment to work with him for their equipment needs. It is really great to hear that you like the clubs and that they are increasing the smile on your face when you get out to tee it up!!! Thanks so much for sharing us and the very best wishes to you in this great game !!


  48. I’ve been playing the 771 CSI’s for about 9 months and thought I would give some feedback. I started out as a 12 handicap and not really looking for a “game improvement” iron. I listened to my fitter and with some hesitancy went with them.

    Here are some of my thoughts:
    1) They are long, but accurate. I hit a 7 iron up to 173 yards on a pure shot with an aggressive swing. 167 yards with a smoother swing.
    2) I love the sound, feel and top line. They simply don’t feel like game improvement from that aspect.
    3) It’s taken time to get comfortable with the distance. I often hit it too long, but rarely too short, which is opposite of most amateur players.
    4) I’m now playing at about a 7 handicap. I attribute most of this to the irons, as my short game certainly hasn’t improved. I hit more greens and know from 170 yards and in, I’ve got a real good chance of being on the green. I only have the 7 iron thru PW in the 771 CSI currently.

    Finally, for those that are stuck on the “game improvement” label because they’re a lower handicap player……get over it. These irons say players irons in every way when hitting the ball. You’ll have a better chance of going for more greens from further out than you ever thought was possible. Your game will improve because you’re longer and more accurate. What a terrible trade off for a GI iron.

    • Ed,
      Thank you for this post. I am looking into building a new set of irons, and in my heart wanted to go for these, but at a 6 handicap, wasn’t sure if they were the irons for me. Your recommendation sealed the deal for me. At 54 years, I feel like I need to get as much going in my favor as possible, and it sounds like these might be the ones I need! Best, Brian

  49. Any chance of a “reduced offset” version of these?

    I love the feel and distance, but 3mm offset in the wedges is simply too much. If the offset went from 1mm in the PW to 4mm in the 5i, I think a lot more better players would seriously consider these!

    • ALEX
      Thanks very much for the chance to clear up some misinformation about offset measurements in irons. First off we need a frame of reference. An iron that is considered to be a low offset or non offset iron has an actual offset measurement of 2mm. Not 1mm, not 0mm. If you ever see an iron with a 0 or 1mm offset, the leading edge looks like it is IN FRONT of the hosel. This is because there is an optical illusion created by the fact golfers all look at the head with TWO eyes. This has the effect of making a 0 or 1mm offset look like ON set with the leading edge in front of the hosel.

      In the industry today, an iron with an offset measurement of 9-10mm is considered a heavily offset iron design. So with all this in mind, do be aware that in the 771CSI, the 4 iron is at 6mm, then the #5 and #6 are 5mm, the #7 and 8 are 4mm and then the 9 to AW are 3mm. If you consider that most golfers play a 4 hybrid instead of a 4 iron (or should) you then have a situation where the #5 to AW only go from 5mm to 3mm in offset – less than half of what is considered a definite offset iron at 9-10mm all the way through the wedges.

      If your concern is based on seeing the printed offset specs of the 771 and if you have not seen them in person to put the head down behind the ball, you should. This amount of offset is really not something that is enough to allow a player who prefers low offset to look at the head and go YUCK. In fact, we really have yet to hear any complaints about the offset on the 771. Me personally, I hate a lot of offset in irons. So I have never in the history of me designing for my company have never designed an iron with more offset than what you see in the specs for the 771CSI. Also, I did design the 771’s to be a definite game improvement iron not really to be aimed at the golfer who has always been drawn to the traditional forged iron that has 2mm of offset through the set.

      But really, I welcome you to take a look at the 771 in person with the head down in the playing position and I really think that you will see that it is not enough offset to make one think that it is excessive.


    • Tom

      Is there any truth to the rumor that offset irons will make a player who doesn’t have trouble with a slice pull it to the left? Seems to be hotly contested opinion on the golf forums…

    • RW:

      it is not an automatic or a guaranteed result, but more offset CAN cause a player who draws the ball all the time to get more draw on the shot. And then for some players, definitely not all, it can fool them into setting up for the shot with the shoulders pointed left which can bring about a hook if the player draws the ball naturally or a pull for some others. But again, these are not things that happen to all players who are non slicers, only some.


  50. Tom, thanks so much for your speedy response.

    I just held up my JPX Pro 5 iron to the computer screen in the playing position and compared it against the photo of the 5 iron on this page.

    You are right, the difference is negligible at best. Any chance you could post a pic of the PW at address?

    I was leaning towards the 870ti for the less offset, but the 771csi definitely look more friendly in terms of overall head size. I am guessing they will also feel softer with the carbon steel frame?

    • Alex
      Will try on that image as we do not have an existing look down shot of the PW – when we do those shots for the catalog we can only put one image of that view in the catalog so we typically choose the 6 iron in each iron set. Our photographer is also off on a different project since he’s done with our catalog shooting. So I’ll try to do this.

      FYI on the 870s, we are finished with closing this model out to discontinue it because with the 771’s popularity since they were intro’d, we do not need two different high COR variable thickness face designs in our product line. So we closed out the remaining inventory of the 870s over this past month. The reason for the carbon steel body on the 771’s was two fold – 1) it allows a very wide range of bending for lie fitting and any loft tweaks that any golfer might want; 2) because the HS300 high strength steel face material that enables the high COR of the face has to be chrome plated to protect the alloy, doing the body in carbon steel makes that part of the head also fully compatible with the nickel chrome plating process. The carbon steel body does NOT make the impact feel be like that of a fully forged 1 piece carbon steel iron. That is determined by the face design so since the 771 has a thin, high strength steel face, that does make the impact feel different than that of a full forged cs iron. However, it is true that the carbon steel body slightly mutes the feel of the HS 300 face over what it would be were the body of the head to be a hard stainless like 17-4.


  51. Tom,

    I went to check out the 771 and 979 iron heads at fitter Michael Clark in Berkeley. We had a good discussion about fitting. I currently use the Callaway X20 6-pw irons. I have been playing golf just over 40 years and am currently between an 11-13 hcp from the white tees. I will turn 56 in May this year. I hit my 6 iron averaging 143 total distance. As I age, I definitely have been seen a loss in distance and club head speed. I would like to see a higher trajectory in my irons shots. I currently have the stock senior shaft, 75 gram, low kick point graphite shaft in the X20 irons.
    Which iron head is designed for a higher trajectory, the 771 or 949 or do you have a better recommendation? From what I could see when visiting Michael Clark, the 949 looked like it had more weight in the back versus the 771 so would have a higher trajectory all else being equal. Thank you for your reply.

    • Robert

      First off, I am pleased to hear you are working with Michael. I’ve known him for more than 25 yrs in this field and you won;t find a more knowledgable and caring clubfitter to work with. I do mean that. (As an aside, my 93 yr old mother lives in Marin and when a neighbor of hers came to her to ask about being fit, I told her to send the neighbor to Berkeley to work with Michael. And he loves the clubs so that made my mother very happy cuz the man helps her out a lot with things around her house – she did not want him to dislike the clubs for fear of losing his help !!)

      OK, back to work!! If you’re looking to replace a loss in distance, that says the 771’s hands down because of their high COR, variable thickness face. Also, for most golfers, the thin face design does generate a little higher flight because of the way the ball comes off the face after the face flexes a little bit inward. The 979s are a conventional 1 piece cast stainless iron so they do not have as high of a COR as the 771’s and thus would not generate the same distance for the same loft. And while their slightly wider sole plus more rear weighting can increase trajectory, typically the thin face of the 771 would do the same and then with the added distance from the high COR face, that puts the 771’s as my recommendation for what you should try out when you work with Michael to nail down your best fitting specifications.

      Thanks much for your interest !!

  52. Hi Tom,
    How is the forgiveness on off-center hits on the 771csi irons compared to your other iron designs? I have had a few phone conversations with Scott prior to my fitting in April and trying to narrow down what head designs to try. I too was a little concerned about the offset as I typically hit a slight draw with my 4,5,and 6 irons. Also, I’m going to replace my 4 iron with a hybrid, should I keep the offset similar as the irons for a consistent look and feel?
    Thanks, Ross

    • ROSS
      Well there is no question that the variable thickness face design of the 771CSI is going to offer a noticeable increase in off center hit forgiveness over any other iron in our line, and likely over any other iron period. When you design a high COR face as the 771 has, when you then take it and do it in a variable thickness construction, that does make the off center performance pretty darn hard to beat by any other iron that does not have some form of special face construction.

      I will say that in a completely non offset design, the forged 560MC with its fully CNC machined back cavity design does have a very very good off center hit performance for an iron that is not a high COR face and not a variable thickness face. But if getting a definite increase in iron distance is a high priority for you in your selection, there is no way the 560’s forged face design can achieve what the 771 face design can. The 771’s would be at least a half club to 3/4’s club longer per the same number in the set over the 560s because of that high COR face of the 771.

      771’s offset is really not even close to being as much as you see on a typical Ping or Callaway cavity back cast stainless game improvement design. Those irons are in the area of 9-10mm of offset. The 771 starts at 6mm for the #4, then drops to 5mm for the 5 and 6 irons, then drops to 4mm after that. While that is more offset than the 560MC has, it still is not nearly as much as what you see from most other companies in their game improvement iron models. So you should at least look at it when you meet with Scott to get your own personal feel for the look of the offset.


  53. Tom,
    Listening to the Honda Classic on PGA radio online. I checked the offset specs of the Mizuno JPZ- 850 irons which are irons I liked. They give the specs in inches, so I converted to mm’s and they are almost identical. I’m anxious to hit the 771’s when I meet with Scott. I believe these will be great for my game.
    Thanks again for your input,


    • My pleasure, Ross!

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